Journal FortKnox's Journal: The Next Best Thing? 32
(Wow, hattrick JE. I'm on a roll for someone without time).
I didn't realize how many of you are unhappy with the current system. Well, its not that surprising, cause the zoo system on slashdot was slapped on and not many of you are here for the slashdot side, but rather, for the journals.
So the question becomes, what should the next best thing be?
I've already made a slashclone (for those that remember the old marotti.com) and it failed pretty bad. Just making a journalling system is simply a livejournal clone.
First, obviously, you'd need journalling. And the writer becomes an 'admin' (in the sense of being able to delete comments and such). Maybe a community moderation system? Or none at all? (or none until you have over 20 messages in the entry?). The zoo system could be thrown in place as just colors. Like your friends comment TD border becomes green (sorry to go HTML on those that don't know it), foes become red, etc... And branch out the system a little more and have colors that make sense... So it isn't about adjusting their comments, but making their comments 'stand out'.
I'd think you'd want something for a 'main page' that is the core interest of all. Like with slashdot's main page. It doesn't have to be fancy or anything. Or perhaps you just have a 'select few' journals that you can view... or a random one on the front page?? Maybe the 'journal entry of the day' voted on by the readers??
Anywho, I'm looking for ideas to setup some requirements for the next best thing.
And, wife and joey are out to philly from thurs-sunday so I have time to whip something up if the ideas pour in fast enough.
I didn't realize how many of you are unhappy with the current system. Well, its not that surprising, cause the zoo system on slashdot was slapped on and not many of you are here for the slashdot side, but rather, for the journals.
So the question becomes, what should the next best thing be?
I've already made a slashclone (for those that remember the old marotti.com) and it failed pretty bad. Just making a journalling system is simply a livejournal clone.
First, obviously, you'd need journalling. And the writer becomes an 'admin' (in the sense of being able to delete comments and such). Maybe a community moderation system? Or none at all? (or none until you have over 20 messages in the entry?). The zoo system could be thrown in place as just colors. Like your friends comment TD border becomes green (sorry to go HTML on those that don't know it), foes become red, etc... And branch out the system a little more and have colors that make sense... So it isn't about adjusting their comments, but making their comments 'stand out'.
I'd think you'd want something for a 'main page' that is the core interest of all. Like with slashdot's main page. It doesn't have to be fancy or anything. Or perhaps you just have a 'select few' journals that you can view... or a random one on the front page?? Maybe the 'journal entry of the day' voted on by the readers??
Anywho, I'm looking for ideas to setup some requirements for the next best thing.
And, wife and joey are out to philly from thurs-sunday so I have time to whip something up if the ideas pour in fast enough.
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subscriber to the rescue! (Score:2)
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Re:I'd check and see what LG was talking about fir (Score:1)
What FK proposes sounds kinda like K5 diaries. IIRC, the editorial comments have a border around them, but not others. Would be trivial to change it to be friend/foe/etc. based.
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Re:I'd check and see what LG was talking about fir (Score:2)
Another idea (Score:2)
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New System (Score:2)
Second, if everyone agrees to move, then you need a mechanism in place to pull over ALL of the existing journals and comments. There's a lot of history here and to simply leave it behind is kind of silly.
Why do we need a new, better thing?
Maybe some people want to add graphics to their JEs or video, etc...
FK,
I'm not sure that we need a new, better thing.
Just my 2cents.
Re:New System (Score:1)
OH YEAH?!?! (Score:2)
I just don't think its a good webapp language.
Me too (Score:2)
So I really don't see the need for a new "better than /." system -- after all there are others already anyway (K5, Plastic.com, etc.). And like Dayton, unless the community that has formed here
Re:New System (Score:2)
/. gets the job done, if you mostly ignore the front page.
Re:New System (Score:2)
Ah damn. I've been type-cast again!
Re:New System (Score:2)
Ah damn. I've been type-cast again!
No, that would have looked like this...
Object o = new FortKnox();try {
LeftistPinkoCommie lpk = (LeftistPinkoCommie) o;
}
catch (ClassCastException e)
{
System.out.println("FK isn't a Lefty Pinko Commie? Who'd a thunk it!");
}
Re:New System (Score:1)
Why not LJ? (Score:1)
Out of curiosity (Score:2)
Yup, the zoo was bolted on for no apparent reason except that Taco thought it would be fun, everyone thought it was idiotic and then a whole new /. culture emerged around it. People don't give Rob nearly as much credit as his savviness deserves. I doubt if he realizes it himself.
Anyway, out of curiosity, why *are* you people here if you have no inte
Re:Out of curiosity (Score:2)
Well, I'm now in that category - the word which explains it all being now. I started years ago (under another nick),
Re:Out of curiosity (Score:2)
I'd guess it's partly because of the FoF system, where people can more easily stumble upon journals of friends of f
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First off (Score:1)
And that's all I can think of right now.
I'd probably move on over, but I'm not sure about others.
Re:First off (Score:2)
THis publish method would conflict with any searching feature since different users would turn up different search results.
But it could be an option for sure. No idea how the implementation would be affected.
jason
Re:First off (Score:1)
You see a few people I know IRL read my
End result. I don't post it.
Re:First off (Score:2)
What happens when you add / remove a friend to your list. Do they loose / gain the ability to search through a discussion? IF you add a friend, do they gain the ability to search all future discussions? IF you remove a friend, do they retain searching through previous discussions, but loose that ability on future discussions?
Come to think of it, is searchign even a viable option?
Re:First off (Score:1)
So, right now for example, I could post a JE asking whoever wanted to know some esoteric intimate detail about suject x to email me, and I would reply. And everyone would get the entry, but no one would be able to really talk about it with each other without also resorting to email or posting to the Journal and thus defeating t
A 3rd party frontend to /. itself (Score:2)
A reasonable frontend.
Really, who doesn't go directly to their messages? Who would rather have a JTree-like look at comments instead of the flat list (which only exists because of the volume on the frontpage but is too spartan for the more intimate Journals).
The way I see it: a page with the listing of messages at the top and the x most recent journals from your friends shown in the same way as di
Re:A 3rd party frontend to /. itself (Score:1)
Re:A 3rd party frontend to /. itself (Score:2)
Re:A 3rd party frontend to /. itself (Score:2)
What about comments.pl [slashdot.org]? It shows all the active discussions, including journal entries. Yes, it's a bitch to navigate (even worse than the search-thingie), but you can still find fun things from time to time.
Re:A 3rd party frontend to /. itself (Score:2)
Yes, 'search'ing for journals is a nice way to find other peoples' journals, too.
*ashamed of himself*
The Circle (Score:2)
I wrote a JE which is sorta about this [slashdot.org]. It's about The Circle [thecircle.org.au]. More or less it is a friend/foe system on an analog scale. You can choose degrees of trust instead of the binary "I love this person" or "this person is a troll" Slashlogic. Everyone can moderate too--the moderation you see depends upon who you trust. Their posting and viewing system sucked when I was on it--they didn't even have threading, but wasn't much worse than most web peice of crap interfaces--including Slashdot. The Web is only good for