Crazieeman's Journal: How liberals view your money.

This is something I ran across in the Penny-Arcade forums approximately a year ago that had me so flabbergasted, I could not help but copy-paste it for further study and discussion.

And here it is for you guys!

It was a thread regarding this simple political quiz and as no surprise (gaming community) the vast majority were far, far leftist.

A conservative who took the test was not surprised at the results, posted his result screen, and wrote this:
No suprise here, I am a moderate Republican. I like my money, I don't like giving it to slackers.

To which a liberal replied:
Your mistake here is assuming that A) the money is yours, and B) that money exists at all. Bitch.

A bit baffled, the conservative decided to press with the existence of money and the system:
The money is mine. I work for it therefore it is mine. That is how the system works.

To which, the liberal replied with something I still have no words for...
Money is a social illusion, a fabrication. You, being a collection of atoms, have no right to claim a separate collection of atoms, representing a mere concept, as property. At best, you steward the money which you collect.

And of course, no surprise, the liberal went by the handle 'God-Eater'

Hmmm... interesting but far out.

[Trolling4Dollars]

I am often accused of being a liberal and have thus adopted the label. But, I wouldn't go so far as to say that money doesn't exist. I do think money is pointless and worthless though. I think there are things that have real value (whether imagined or not) like gold, diamonds, silver, etc... I also think there are things that have value (again imagined or not) like concepts, basic information and skills. Personally, I'd rather be intelligent, famous and poor, rather than dumb, infamous and rich.

I do

Re:Hmmm... interesting but far out.

[Cyberdyne]

I do think money is pointless and worthless though.

In itself, yes - but it's used as a token, representing a real item. Originally, for example, one British "pound" was simply a token representing one lb of silver. If I paid you with a "pound", you could go to the bank which issued it, and say "give me my pound of silver please", and they would. In practice, of course, you'd either spend the pound, or put it in the bank (at which point, 1 lb of the bank's silver is marked as being yours, until you take the

Nonsense

[baldass_newbie]

This is the kind of stuff that young people who don't have things will often state. You can't "own" anything and then go on with a metaphysical analysis (or in this case, quantum mechanistic, I guess).
Anyway, this mirros the Philosophy of P.J. Proudhon [vwh.net] and his 'Property is Theft' argument.
Cute but nihilistic and usually a precursor for some sort of Socialist blather.
The person you're arguing with either does not work or does not see the value in earning a day's wage for a day's labor.
You're looking at thin

Re:Nonsense

[Crazieeman]

Well, I wasn't doing it the arguing, just watching from afar. Far from 'moderate' Republican. Downright pissed at all the extra spending Bush is setting up. If he doesn't stop the spending, we will end up in deficits despite the tax cuts. Yeesh.

Re:Nonsense

[baldass_newbie]

The big problem I have is these indexed increases.
Basically, congress has created a system whereby education spending (for instance) increases 4% annually. Automatically.
As soon as Bush or any other Republican attempts to scale this back, the democrats come out and say that Bush is 'gutting' education. Seriously.
And the press just repeats the charge. No scrutiny. No balance.
As for deficits, bah. We ran with them for 40 years (during democrats control of congress). The biggest risk are inflation and in

Re:Nonsense

[Crazieeman]

Very good point, I neglected to see that.

After all, he's the one with the MBA, I'm juts a lowly peon :)