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bmetzler's Journal: One Marine vs. 20 Idiots--Guess Who Wins? 35

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By JAMES TARANTO

On Friday, we noted that a score of Ohio University students and others had staged a "die-in" to protest the liberation of Iraq. The Post, the student newspaper, carried a letter from Marc Fencil, a senior who is also a Marine currently stationed in Iraq, that is so excellent we reprint it in full:

It's a shame that I'm here in Iraq with the Marines right now and not back at Ohio University completing my senior year and joining in blissful ignorance with the enlightened, war-seasoned protesters who participated in the recent "die-in" at College Gate. It would appear that all the action is back home, but why don't we make sure? That's right, this is an open invitation for you to cut your hair, take a shower, get in shape and come on over! If Michael Moore can shave and lose enough weight to fit into a pair of camouflage utilities, then he can come too!

Make sure you all say your good-byes to your loved ones though, because you won't be seeing them for at least the next nine months. You need to get here quick because I don't want you to miss a thing. You missed last month's discovery of a basement full of suicide vests from the former regime (I'm sure Saddam's henchmen just wore them because they were trendy though). You weren't here for the opening of a brand new school we built either. You might also notice women exercising their new freedom of walking to the market unaccompanied by their husbands.

There is a man here, we just call him al-Zarqawi, but we think he'd be delighted to sit down and give you some advice on how you can further disrespect the victims of Sept. 11 and the 1,600 of America's bravest who have laid down their lives for a safer world. Of course he'll still call you "infidel" but since you already agree that there is no real evil in the world, I see no reason for you to be afraid. Besides, didn't you say that radical Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance?

I'm warning you though -it's not going to be all fun and games over here. You might have bad dreams for the next several nights after you zip up the body bag over a friend's disfigured face. I know you think that nothing, even a world free of terror for one's children, is worth dying for, but bear with me here. We're going to live in conditions you've never dreamt about. You should get here soon though, because the temperatures are going to be over 130 degrees very soon and we will be carrying full combat loads (we're still going to work though). When it's all over, I promise you can go back to your coffee houses and preach about social justice and peace while you continue to live outside of reality.

If you decide to decline my offer, then at least you should sleep well tonight knowing that men wearing black face masks and carrying AK-47s yelling "Allahu Akbar" over here are proud of you and are forever indebted to you for advancing their cause of terror. While you ponder this, I'll get back to the real "die-in" over here. I don't mind.
What can we say but "Semper fi"?

God Bless America
Saepius Exertus, Semper Fidelis, Frater Infinitas
Often Tested, Always Faithful, Brothers Forever.
United States Marines

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One Marine vs. 20 Idiots--Guess Who Wins?

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  • Too bad messages of truth fall on the deaf ears of the indignant and righteous protesters, whose cause is justice for the war crimes of President Bush.

    friggin idiots.

    jason
  • That he can accomplish the same task as marching 20 miles in full combat gear with a couple of cruise missiles, or maybe a UAV with a Hellfire? Oh yeah- the administration can't be bothered to actually ARM our people the way they should be, deserve to be, armed.

    I'm still waiting for them to come to Beaverton, confiscate the now mostly empty Techtronix campus (since 90% of Techtronix has now moved to places like India and China) and put all the unemployed engineers back to work making UAV's, Hellfires, and
    • by kikta (200092) *
      You can drop bombs all you want, but the only thing that wins a war, especially a guerilla war, is boots on the ground. Driving around in HMMWVs are even a bad idea much of the time over there because it alienates the native population. Don't yell for more shit we don't need.

      There's an excellent article entitled, "MCDP 1, Warfighting, Revisited" in the latest edition of the Marine Corps Gazette. I suggest you try to obtain a copy & read it. Hopefully it will clear up the misconceptions you have.
      • You can drop bombs all you want, but the only thing that wins a war, especially a guerilla war, is boots on the ground.

        No- there's one other thing that can win a guerilla war- make the battle ground, and all of the cities in it, uninhabitable by carbon-based life forms.

        Driving around in HMMWVs are even a bad idea much of the time over there because it alienates the native population.

        My answer is simpler- because when you're done, there is no native population left.

        Don't yell for more shit we don't n
        • Yeah... genocide is a bit of a tough sell there, Hitler.
          • But it's not a terribly tough sell for the Iraeli Zionists or the Islamic Jihadists- once attacked by such people your ONLY choice is who you want to be the victims of the genocide- your people or theirs. That is the war we are facing- that is why there is an endless insurgency- and people who don't understand that have NO chance of winning this war at all.

            You will never achieve peace in Iraq without depopulating Iraq and separating the tribes that have been at war for 5000 years. You will never achieve
            • That's the reason your Marines lost in Vietnam- because they weren't allowed to commit genocide against a genocidal enemy.

              First, we didn't lose a single major battle. Not one. Re-read your history if you think otherwise. Second, we don't do genocide, thank you very much. We're professionals and we kill only those who must be killed, and even then we will happily accept their surrender at any time.

              If you want to turn the rest of the world into a glass parking lot, then that's your opinion. But don't try an

              • First, we didn't lose a single major battle. Not one. Re-read your history if you think otherwise.

                Depends on your definition of LOST. In Vietnam, if you left even one person left alive on the other side to fight, you lost the battle.

                Second, we don't do genocide, thank you very much.

                Then you aren't what we need against a genocidal enemy, thank you very much. You aren't trained for the type of victory that is needed.

                We're professionals and we kill only those who must be killed, and even then we will
                • Well, you're obviously a troll (and not a very subtle one at that). I had thought maybe you were misguided at first, but it's become quite obvious that you're full of shit (or insane).

                  Thanks for wasting my time.
                  • Well, you're obviously a troll (and not a very subtle one at that). I had thought maybe you were misguided at first, but it's become quite obvious that you're full of shit (or insane).

                    I may well be a troll- but if so, I'm a troll inspired by the incredible cowardice and lack of ability to fullfill constitutional duty that the Commander in Chief and our military have shown in the past 4 years.
                    • So, by your own admission, you are a selfish, paranoid, genocidal troll... you expect others to listen to you, why?

                      And you are going to presume to tell me about cowardice? One of us is a guy who wants to sit comfortably at home and have others nuke the rest of the world so he doesn't have to worry about it. The other has been serving his country for over nine years in the Marines and isn't scared to get his hands dirty and risk his ass to fight the good fight.

                      Seriously, you're a pussy, Dude. Don't kid yours
                    • So, by your own admission, you are a selfish, paranoid, genocidal troll... you expect others to listen to you, why?

                      Because history is on my side- you see there are only two historical tactics that you can use against terrorism- Isolationism and Genocide. Nobody listened about isolationism- they choose the other route, and like it or not, this war will end in a genocide. We might not have to fire a shot to do it either- the enemy is quite capable of their own self-destruction.

                      And you are going to pres
              • There are innocent people out in the world who need our help and we're helping them.

                We certainly are [usdoj.gov]. Yep, they're real innocent. Truth is a controlled substance where you live, it appears. Aaahhh, the taste of power. It must be sweet. You prop up pirates to get their treasures, and you expect the victims to be grateful? Fascinating.
              • There are innocent people out in the world who need our help and we're helping them.

                Part 2 [usdoj.gov]

                Just so you don't think I'm partial to one side or the other.

                This isn't about killing people for the hell of it.

                You're right. It's about killing people for money and power. Just like it has always been. You claim to be more civil than the other side because you can afford to. Neutralize your fancy tech, give some of that prime California coastline back to the Indians and boot you out of your house to accomplish that, a
            • That's the reason your Marines lost in Vietnam- because they weren't allowed to commit genocide against a genocidal enemy.

              It was more due to the protection of commercial interests. Too many untouchable targets because of their monetary value. There was a bit of that going on during WWII also. That and it wasn't the intention to win as much as to feed the war machine for as long as possible. The stock market value of the arms merchants has a lot to do with it. The idealistic war was being fought on televisio
              • That's what I see here as well. We're trying to keep Iraq a single country instead of what it really should be by now, two or three countries, mainly so that our oil companies have an easier time negotiating for rights.
                • Yeah. There pretty well sums it up. It's too bad that the guys doing the fighting believe that they're fighting some "just" war to make people free. I suppose while they are in the military, they have to believe that. And since they are working for a govt that does indeed represent the people who voted, I would have to say that it's best that they continue to obey the commander in chief, who was elected by the civilian population. I don't think mutiny is a good idea yet...Unless of course the govt was to tu
                  • They already are. There's a reason why the National Guard is having problems trying to put together enough troops to handle the aftermath of Katrina.

                    They don't give a shit about protecting THIS nation at all anymore- and in so doing, they've turned the military against us.
                    • They already are.

                      Memory fading fast...They already have. I forgot about Kent State...then there's a much more famous incident...The Civil War. The South should consider itself occupied territory. In reality, the entire western hemisphere is also. It sure would be interesting if the entire native population rose up. They have a case...more than Israel does. If mass media was doing its job, they would pick up on it. BAH! To hell with it all. I'll just do my best to keep my distance. The whole thing is more di
                    • Wow. Looks like you two are having fun jerking each other off with all your bullshit theories. I hope you two have a wonderful life together.
                    • Well, finally a reaction from a wannabe warlord. There you have it. Fightin' an' killin' to keep the illusion alive at five bucks a gallon. Go, go, Gadget, go! Believe me, you're no hero, pal. You're just one of Blackbeard's minions.
                    • Well, finally a reaction from a wannabe warlord.

                      I've been in the field all week honing my killing skills. You've been at home getting softer & whining about shit instead of doing something.

                      You're just one of Blackbeard's minions.

                      YAAARRRRRR!!!
                    • I've been in the field all week honing my killing skills.

                      Right now you're needed in New Orleans to hone your humanitarian skills...if they haven't been completely overwhemed by your killing skills. But even those might come in handy to fight off the insurgency [click2houston.com] there. You're creating new enemies where none existed. But don't worry. You're just carrying on an old American/European past-time. Older than baseball and apple pie. I'm sure Wall Street considers you a hero. They are the only ones you're really help
                    • Right now you're needed in New Orleans to hone your humanitarian skills...

                      Not my job. I have a mission to do here. That's the National Guard. And I don't see you getting off your fat ass & going down there to volunteer with the Red Cross. You and the other idiot seem to have lots of "good" ideas about what tough jobs others should be doing, but yet you don't do anything yourselves.

                      I am doing something. I quit driving. I do what I can to minimize my support of the robber barons. I try to show people t

                    • Not my job.

                      Yeah, that's the spirit! Ever the bureaucrat. A real Washington insider, you are.

                      I have a mission to do here.

                      Killing and pillaging, and protecting the pirates on Wall Street. And you're doing a great job at that. Good for you. Hope you're proud. Your real job is to protect Americans. At that you're a massive failure. If you were forced to do what you're doing, I could sympathize. But you choose to work for thieves and criminals. Don't think you deserve any respect for that.

                      ...have lots of "good"
                    • Yeah, that's the spirit! Ever the bureaucrat. A real Washington insider, you are.

                      Not what I meant. I was referring to the fact that I have a more pressing task at the moment. We're deploying Marines from the 1st and 2d MEF to assist. However, we cannot stop the training of a whole generation of officers during a war. Thus, I cannot go. If I could, I would go in a heartbeat.

                      You are free to go and volunteer, but you choose to sit on your ass and bitch. That's what makes you a pathetic human being.

                      And guess

                    • You are free to go and volunteer, but you choose to sit on your ass and bitch...I wonder if you've even bothered to donate any money. Or if you've consoled people who have lost loved ones or their homes. Probably a big "no" to both.

                      Aaahh, so quick to assume. So very typical of your type. You have no idea what I have done, and since it's of no consequence to you, it's none of your business.

                      Awesome job, Jackass.

                      At least I'm not the one commiting murder for Halliburton and Enron, and their ilk. I'm not working
          • Yeah... genocide is a bit of a tough sell there, Hitler.
            --
            Kill 'em all & let God sort it out later...


            Very funny :-)
      • "MCDP 1, Warfighting, Revisited" in the latest edition of the Marine Corps Gazette.

        As it turns out, this is another thing that the government stupidly keeps away from the people- you can't get this magazine unless you are CURRENTLY in the armed forces.
        • Totally untrue. It's a non-profit private organization that publishes the Gazette. And you can buy it anywhere on or around a Marine base and at the Marine Corps Association in Quantico. They also offer a civilian rate for a subscription. I know they have a web site, but I'm not sure if they make all articles availible online, or only some - and either way it would be an economic decision. Chill out with the conspiracy theories.
          • It's hard to chill out with the conspiracy theories when in the last 5 years I've seen my family attacked, economically and physically. It's hard to see why we should be wasting time with Iraq when I'm afraid to take my 2-year-old-son to the park thanks to the Mexican Meth adicts, pushers, and gangs. I'll grant the idea that we needed to go in- but if we're going in, our aim should have been to do whatever it took to pacify the solution (including depopulating Iraq completely if need be), get out, and get
      • Driving around in HMMWVs are even a bad idea much of the time over there because it alienates the native population.

        Heh. Like your mere presence over there doesn't do that already.

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