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More Mapping of the Net
Posted by
CmdrTaco
on Wed Sep 12, 2001 05:04 PM
from the stuff-to-see dept.
from the stuff-to-see dept.
An anonymous reader wrote in to say"It turns out that famous map was not the end of it, a cybergeography alert linked to this site with lots of cool pictures and animations. Turns out they didn't measure time between hosts on the poster map, and it can be used to make cool pix!"
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mirror attempt... (Score:4, Interesting)
the site was already toast. i got half of one image.
wouldn't it be cool if slashdot could choose 5 or 10 trusted people (slashdot users who had previously performed a good public service and mirrored old articles) to get the story 5-8 minutes early?
complex
Re:mirror attempt... (Score:4, Informative)
Here's a mirror for some of the images:
http://ocs.thq.com/jsuzuki/sep122001/_con.jpg [thq.com]
http://ocs.thq.com/jsuzuki/sep122001/layout2.gif [thq.com]
More Posters (Score:1)
Mirror (Score:5, Informative)
Someone mind helping? I dont think it will handle a heavy
con.jpg [internetmaximum.com]
VRML1.jpg [internetmaximum.com]
Personal Experience with these maps (Score:5, Informative)
I remember when Bill Cheswick started making them. At the time, both he and my dad were at Bell Labs. He even printed two different views out for me to hang on my dorm room hall. But these have interesting research aspects in small parts. The first is mapping the internet. Damn. He has daily logs going way back, and on his website has videos of the IP's of Bosnia blinking on and off during the days of bombing them. (Google search for him). It's incredible.
But the visualization has interesting problems. My dad did some interesting work on the computational geometry structure that allowed for these things to be visualized. They have various springiness between all the connections that eventually reach the state that's displayed. The colors can be assigned in various ways (the one I remember is that each different part of the IP address is a component of RGB). It's an amazing effort that's a lot less hype and a lot more science than we might think.
For more info, the book Programming Pearls by Jon Bentley has mention of it (my copy is packed away, otherwise I would cite it), if obscure. But if you want to do cool stuff like this, it's important to remember that it's not just scripts, cs theory can help everywhere! A useful lesson to take to heart.
-Dan
The Map (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:The Map (Score:5, Informative)
Via a variety of bugs in the layout code over the years, I've produced interesting images, such as rings, clovers, and (my favorite) hearts. However, they almost always have a fractal feel at the micro-level. This is true for almost any Eades-like layout that I've seen, so it's probably a function of the layout algorithm.
Interestingly enough, corporate networks layout much differently that the Internet. Corporate networks tend to be very clean, while the Internet is very stringy (almost looks like the strands within some fiberglass).
Re:The Map (Score:4, Interesting)
for some interesting stuff on complex internet structure, see xerox parc's 'internet ecologies' area at http://www.parc.xerox.com/istl/groups/iea/ [xerox.com].
What it really needs though... (Score:5, Funny)
"YOU ARE HERE"
linkmapping (Score:2, Informative)
A Dutch doo (milov.nl [milov.nl]) wrote a cool little linkmapping device. In his words: "Using a combination of PHP and Javascript-DOM-scripting, the structure on this page will grow in different directions depending on the number of referrers that link to it."
They need to edit the map already, (Score:2)
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And all you mirror hounds - back off. Some day these idiots will learn that you don't post something on the net that the
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broken videos (Score:3, Funny)
Site isn't actually down (Score:3, Informative)
Anyone who wants to mirror the entire page, with the embedded graphics, is welcome to, to make the material more accessible. Steve updates this page from time to time, so don't expect your mirror to stay current forever.
A mostly complete mirror? (Score:3, Funny)
Has most of the images on it. Be warned, this poor box is already pseudo-slashdotted due to some other mirrored content at the moment, and my poor cable modem can't handle too much more pounding (I set Roxen to throttle at 40K/s outgoing).
So, please mirror it -- but ONLY if you post the URL to the mirror here. It's still grabbing some of the images, so be patient.
traceroute (Score:3, Insightful)
Totally useless, but cool.
Map in light of US attacks? (Score:1)
I by no means want to belittle the loss of human life because of this tragedy. I think it's unbelievably horrid and my thoughts and hope go out to the victims and their family and friends. I just think this would show us another dimension to the disaster.
ARPANET map circa 1986 (Score:4, Informative)
http://catalog.com/hopkins/arpanet/index-large.htm l [catalog.com]
This is the network of IMPs (Interface Message Processors) that comprised the ARPANET in 1986.
-Don
Could it be? (Score:1)
Maps, shmaps! (Score:1)
And what the hell is this: Your comment violated the postercomment compression filter. Comment aborted
Whole Exhibit at the Guggenheim... (Score:1)
Michael
Re:Vote for a Slashdot Cache (Score:1, Offtopic)
also they dont cache it because some of the site owners earn money by people seeing the site so the cache would take money away from them.. you know those dorky banner ads actually do make money when people see them so thats why a cache is also a bad idea.. they need to make money.
Re:... (Score:1, Offtopic)
Re:Dumb Moderators! (Score:1)
The concept of "funny" has skyrocketed.
Next pool:
What is funny?
- Geek joke
- Comments in the SRC
- Dark jokes (WTC, Hyroshima/Nagasaki, Death of Ayrton Senna...)
- Cowboy Neal.
Re:Hey moderators! (Score:1)