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Comment Re:No swaggering... (Score 3, Insightful) 500

The harsh reality is that "Inalienable Rights" truly do not exist.

that is your opinion. others would argue that they do exist regardless of who recognizes them. Wasn't that the justification for the american revolution? the british government did not recognize the rights of the people, and rather than saying 'oh well, i guess we don't have rights after all' the people rejected that government and formed their own. they did so because they believed that people really do have these rights, not because a governing body decided to let them live in a certain way.

Comment Re:This list is utter rubbish (Score 1) 254

These games are just ones that are popular now. A proper list would have to include the following at minimum:

  1. Elite - Procedural generation, 3D graphics, open ended game play - in 1984 on a computer with only a few kilobytes of memory. Genius.
  2. Starcraft - The game that became a sport. Still being played to this day by masses of people despite its ludicrously dated graphics
  3. Doom - Wolfenstein came first, but it was Doom that made Id into software Gods and replaced the term 'first person shooter' with 'doom clone' for about 5 years
  4. Counterstrike - A turning point for fps, made the 'tactical shooter' popular in addition to multi-player teamwork
  5. Everquest - World of Warcraft is more popular now, but Everquest set the standard for 3D online fantasy worlds that are as immersive and addictive as being dunked in liquid heroin.

But of course, nobody cares about history, because people have the attention span of goldfish.

So really, you don't have a good standard either? It seems that if your standard for 3 were applied to 5 then WoW would be on the list, not Everquest.

Comment Re:Rocket science? (Score 1) 823

Real scientists *do* say "I could be wrong" all the time, and try to estimate the odds of being wrong. We're happy with greater certainty, but we know that 100% guarantees don't exist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

There are good scientists and poor scientists, but they are still people practicing science. Their good or bad science is part of the general discourse but hopefully only the good science results in induction.

Comment Re:Nothing new (Score 1) 513

The hebrew bible gets the order of Persian kings wrong. Josephus quotes list of Persian kings found in hebrew manuscript. Tada, the list of persian kings is independently verified!

Do you have some references? A quick google search didn't turn up anything on it

Comment Re:Who cares? (Score 1) 664

No. The government has to make sure everyone gets a converter box because that's how they keep the circuses going for the sheeple. As long as the Bread and Circuses are in place the shysters running things are fine. Take either one away, and people might wake up and kick the bastards out.

You may be right, but having just experienced a snow storm that left many roads impassible, another reason comes to mind. It could also be that the government realizes that this is a good medium to convey information to the masses. That is to say, in the event that something monumental or catastrophic happens, they will be able to communicate with the vast majority of the populace.

Comment Re:California Minnesota (Score 1) 197

That's what you get for pissing off Jesse "the future Governor of Minnesota" Ventura. Cloaking device or not.

Actually, predator wasn't injured until after he killed Ventura. That one bald dude then picked up his gun and shot randomly into the forest and injured the predator.

Comment Re:And where...and where...and where... (Score 1) 292

Science does not prove anything, it provides the best explaination for observations. The observable expansion of the visable universe is EVIDENCE to support the big bang. Science does not claim that god didn't light the fuse, it claims there is no EVIDENCE of a fuse. There are lots of things you can believe in without evidence, such unicorns and fairies, why is a belief in fairies any more or less rational than a belief in "a higher power"?

What is interesting about cosmology is that it uniquely deals with the issue of origin as compared to other areas of science. So while some theists think that the big bang is an attack on the notion that God exists, there are other thinkers that believe that the big bang model helps the theist case. For example, the standard big bang model points to a time in the finite past where not only matter and energy, but also space and time came into existence out of nothing. Here's an interesting article regarding this from a theist perspective.

Comment Re:wow (Score 1) 844

You've got to be kidding.

Look at your two examples.

Your average secular Joe might think about it and concede that they were wrong, and something might actually change for the better. Or they might just say "that sounds very nice, but I like my old opinion better".

A theist can stick their fingers in their ears and chant litanies, and is indeed, far more likely to, because their doctrine includes inbuilt mechanisms that tell them to resist all questions and doubts. They might even obey the instructions in their doctrine that tell them to destroy those with world views that conflict with theirs.

Your average secular Joe is doing the same thing as the ignorant theist, only your language is clearly favoring the secular Joe ... and why? Because he's secular Joe! That is exactly the problem. It has nothing to do with theism or atheism and everything to do with MY group vs. YOUR group.

A scientist would examine and attempt to verify the other fellows position - and if he was right, may actually thank him for the enlightenment.

This is just not true. No one is that objective. And when the conclusion to the question might require a radical change in behavior, it's even more certain that no one will be that objective.

Comment Re:wow (Score 1) 844

- the 500 years of the dark ages when Christianity ruled over science and anyone questioning the authority of the church was killed (murder/massacre)

Actually Francis Bacon didn't develop the scientific method until the 1500s

Comment Re:Definition of Anthropic Principle (Score 1) 683

Question: Why is the universe the way it is? Answer: Because if it were any other way, we wouldn't be here to observe it and pose the question.

This idea gets thrown around by a lot of people, and it just doesn't seem to make any sense. At a superficial level it kind of helps to push the question away from the forefront of the mind, maybe convince yourself that it's dealt with, but consider this:

Suppose a man were to be executed by a firing squad, all of whom were armed with live ammunition, standing relatively close, etc. Suppose that upon firing their weapons, not a single person shot the man -- all had missed. Do you think it would be reasonable for the man to say some varant of, "Well of course they all missed, I wouldn't be here to observe it were it not for their missing!"

That being said, this model is clearly an attempt to avoid that problem by positing a large number of possible universes, such that all of them are equally likely, whereas if there were only one universe then the one that exists for us to live in would seem to be quite unlikely. I expect this idea will get a lot of backing in the non-theist community.

As others have said though, the multiverse concept doesn't remove the need for an explaination for 'why is there something rather than nothing' unless the universe is cyclic, or rather, there is no start to space and time.

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