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Comment Re: Popcorn time! (Score 2) 1321

The House can't vote for whomever they want. The House can only choose between the top three electoral vote recipients. There's no way the House can select Romney unless Romney gets at least one electoral vote, from a faithless elector, and nobody other than Trump and Clinton get electoral votes more than Romney.

But the House doesn't even com into play unless Trump loses 37 of his 306 electors. His *Republican* electors.

All the salty snowflake tears in the world can't make that happen. At most, a few politically-suicidal Trump electors defect - none of them to Clinton. He still has well over the 270 votes needed. She still has far fewer than needed, maybe even less than her supposed 232 because of the promise-to-be-faithless Clinton electors like WA's Satiacum.

Bernie Sanders is more likely to be the 3rd recipient of electoral votes than is Romney, if there even is any 3rd-place electoral recipient at all.

Trump wins. He already won, in the election that matters, the separately summed 51 states & DC elections to choose presidential electors. Nothing is changing that. Go put your efforts to some meaningful if you're progressive, like standing with Standing Rock, placing for the 2018 midterms, state legislator elections because that's where gerrymandering happens. Forward-looking stuff. Not this "Wah somebody better fix this" backward undo-it crying.

I really wish people would RTFM aka Constitution before putting out nonsense.

Comment Re:WebRTC (Score 1) 237

Not for ever - they are working on a method of doing bridge-based WebRTC which is nevertheless end-to-end secure - see . AIUI, the way it works is that it established point-to-point encrypted tunnels between the endpoints for key distribution so the bridge isn't able to decrypt the data even if it wanted to, and yet, you don't need N->N transmission of streams.


Comment Re: What's the big problem? (Score 1) 675

"online" has a totally different meaning in that context. It does not mean "shopping on the web". It means, "Realtime authorization all the way back to/from the issuing bank".

Believe it or not, "online" has technology definitions that predate not only the web, but also the internet itself. This is one of them.

Comment You guys are using the terms wrong (Score 2) 675

Wrong. There are some US banks offering Chip+PIN CREDIT cards. And some issuing Chip+Signature DEBIT cards. It all depends on which authentication methods the issuing bank coded into the card's chip, and which priority order they set them.

People saying "PIN is for Debit and signature is for credit" are taking anecdote as if it's industry-wide rule. Or are non-USAians who never knew how it works here.

The "Debit or Credit?" question that US Debit card users often are asked at Point of sale when making a purchase on a Debit card has nothing to do with whether it's a chip card or not, nor even whether it's a credit card or a debit card. It really means, "Process this like an ATM Bank card doing a checking account withdrawal? Which will require your ATM withdrawal PIN. Or, Process this like a credit card charge through the Visa (or MC) network, which will put a credit-card-style authorization on your account but not actually post the charge for hours or days?"

Not, "Is this a Debit card or a Credit Card?"

For the matter, you could always choose "Debit" with a real Credit card too, if you happened to know your "cash advance at ATM" PIN for your magstripe no-PIN credit card. Though most people didn't know that PIN, some Credit cards didn't have one unless you asked, and because at your credit card account it became a usually more-costly cash advance rather than a charge. But fundamentally, "Debit or Credit" is "act as if it's a bank ATM card or act as if it's a credit card", regardless of whether it's really a Credit IRS a Debit card.

"Act as if it's a bank ATM card" always required a PIN, ever since decades ago long before EMV chip cards reached USA.

"Act as if it's a credit card" never required a PIN, in USA.

What is new, and apparently confusing to Muricans, is that with EMV in most of the world, "Act as if it's a credit card" now also requires a PIN.

In USA, if your new EMV chip Credit card is done to world standards, "Act as if it's a credit card" does require a PIN, when in the past, "credit" never did. And too many US banks issued Chip+Signature (only, or Chip+Signature as priority 1 authentication method) cards, so that "credit" still would not require a PIN. Plus they even did the same for Debit Cards, so that when using the Debit card for a purchase as "act like a credit card" it does not use a PIN.

Which leads to confusion by cardholders and merchants alike, and the errors in so many of the posts here too.

My primary credit union's Visa Debit/ATM card requires the PIN for purchases even as "credit" if the POS terminal hardware, software, and merchant account are capable of following the card's EMV commands. Yet my other credit union issued Chip+Signature Debit MasterCard ATM cards. My bank issued a Chip+PIN priority Visa Debit, and the "checking alternative" account at my brokerage issued a Chip+Signature Visa Debit.

Of course all require a PIN when doing an actual ATM cash withdrawal. Or when doing a purchase through the "debit" ATM network.

I will stop now, before explaining how the Dodd-Frank Bill makes US-ussued chip Debit cards even more screwed up and globally non-standard even if they are true Chip+PIN. But it's all kinds of hilarity ensuing.

Comment Re: This should have been obvious... (Score 5, Informative) 62

Pretty much every single smartphone is made in China. Regardless of brand, major or minor, "Western" (Apple, Microsoft/Nokia, rump-Nokia, Alcatel, or low-ends like Blu, etc.), "Developed World Asian"(Samsung, LG, HTC, etc.), or Chinese (Huawei, Oppo, OnePlus, etc.) as the "manufacturer".

Many by the same contract manufacturers in China. And no, that "Designed by Apple in California" or "Google Nexus" branding and supposed oversight does not guarantee that spying firmware and hardware can't get into some subset of phones.

It's pathetically hilarious when legislators or "patriotic citizen" low information types rant about evil Chinese companies making the products and demand only 'Murrican brands.

Submission + - Mozilla Offers More Money To Open Source Projects (

Gerv writes: Last year, Mozilla started a fund to provide financial support to open source projects they use or rely on, to the tune of $1M. Now, they've extended the program with another $1.25M, and any open source project can apply — as long as what it's doing furthers the Mozilla mission, in the eyes of the awards committee. Deadline for the first round of applications is May 31st.

Comment Aurora / Development Edition is just as offtrack (Score 2) 126

I have no idea why you're praising "Aurora" as somehow better than "Firefox", when it is simply a rolling alpha test version of what will BE Firefox in 2 releases (12 weeks). Firefox Developer Edition, which is what the Aurora channel of Firefox is called for Windows, Mac, Linux, has the same dumbed-down UI, the same Pocket and Hello RTC, as Firefox. You still need Classic Theme Restorer and/or Status-4-Evar to make it a sensible and full-featured UI. I normally install both extensions.

If you are a developer, some of the dev tools are nice. The responsive view simulator is great. But otherwise it's the same damn thing, or what will be the same damn thing in a couple or so months.

The only real benefit otherwise is that you can still install unsigned extensions, if you set the proper about:config flag.

Yes, the manual or automatic updates are nice, but basically the same as Firefox release and beta, except daily. For Firefox Mobile Aurora, it is convenient that it's a non-appstore direct install and update. I had one old tablet that never supported Chrome decently and official Google Play Firefox Release and Beta refused to show as compatible. Installing Aurora manually both worked fine and kept it getting browser updates. But that's an edge case.

I do have Firefox Developer Edition installed and in use as my browser default on both of all my Windows and Linux systems. But that's because I do use some of the dev tools and a couple of unsigned extensions. Not because it's somehow better.

Posted from Mobile Firefox Aurora.

Comment Re:Choice of words? (Score 1) 86

"What I don't understand (and maybe because I haven't looked too hard) is what "Old POS terminals" have to do with Mozilla."

The certificates they are using chain up to publicly-trusted roots, and so are covered by Mozilla's policies. In 20-year hindsight, that was a bad idea, but it was a decision taken a long time ago.

Comment Use Chocolatey for no-crapware installs (Score 1) 442

Look into Chocolatey for installing most Windows Open Source and many free-as-in-beer but not open-source software. Conceptually very much like apt-get.

Even for software still hosted on now-evil sourceforge like FileZilla, it bypasses all the crapware wrappers.

Once chocolatey is installed, you do everything through an elevated command prompt, much like "sudo apt-get install filezilla" but literally "choco install filezilla" and upgrade as "choco upgrade filezilla".

Not everything has a chocolatey package but you'd be surprised how many programs do.

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