Comment The pain of animation in the US (Score 2, Insightful) 548
This really bugs me, I am in the animation world. Not as a bean counter, not as an animator. But as an editor and sound engineer.
I totally agree that disney has to go back o its roots and to drop a whole lot of execs and most important of all. To DUMP the disney formula.
The one that has, songs every 5 minutes, and a stupid comic relief.
Walt, bless him, was a man that believed that it was the story combined with the imagry that created a picture. He put HIS company on the line many times to get a picture out.
Mind you he also had some fantastic failures as well. But in the heart of it, WALT was the business man along with Roys father, and they fought tooth and nail sometimes. But now we have people who are NOT animation people trying to control the movies with demographics and test markets and control groups.
Treasure planet and Atlantis were not bad movies. I have seen the original art and the scripts and was amazed how much was dropped and changed for fear of offending kids.
I think that a main point in this continent is that Animation is catagorized unto itself. Any movie that is CG or 2D is just animation. But if we look into it we see that there are Dramas, Comedy, Childrens, Horror, and all varieties of animation.
Example. The animated Spawn series. Faithfull to a point of the original comic, it was merely catagorized as animation. But it is hell and gone from being disney family. Its down right brutal and horrific. gives the Sopranos a run.
Family Guy, is NOT for kids. But people THINK that it can be.
If you do a comparrison to the way Miyazaki makes films and the way Walt made films, you will see nearly identical methods and approaches, and passions for what they are doing. Asking, "Will this be the best picture it can be?" instead of "Is this picture rigged well enough to maximize profit from its varied demographics?"
Animation is Art , AND animation is business. One has to come before the other, and if done correctly the money will follow it.
I totally agree that disney has to go back o its roots and to drop a whole lot of execs and most important of all. To DUMP the disney formula.
The one that has, songs every 5 minutes, and a stupid comic relief.
Walt, bless him, was a man that believed that it was the story combined with the imagry that created a picture. He put HIS company on the line many times to get a picture out.
Mind you he also had some fantastic failures as well. But in the heart of it, WALT was the business man along with Roys father, and they fought tooth and nail sometimes. But now we have people who are NOT animation people trying to control the movies with demographics and test markets and control groups.
Treasure planet and Atlantis were not bad movies. I have seen the original art and the scripts and was amazed how much was dropped and changed for fear of offending kids.
I think that a main point in this continent is that Animation is catagorized unto itself. Any movie that is CG or 2D is just animation. But if we look into it we see that there are Dramas, Comedy, Childrens, Horror, and all varieties of animation.
Example. The animated Spawn series. Faithfull to a point of the original comic, it was merely catagorized as animation. But it is hell and gone from being disney family. Its down right brutal and horrific. gives the Sopranos a run.
Family Guy, is NOT for kids. But people THINK that it can be.
If you do a comparrison to the way Miyazaki makes films and the way Walt made films, you will see nearly identical methods and approaches, and passions for what they are doing. Asking, "Will this be the best picture it can be?" instead of "Is this picture rigged well enough to maximize profit from its varied demographics?"
Animation is Art , AND animation is business. One has to come before the other, and if done correctly the money will follow it.
