Comment Re:As a police officer (Score 1) 1636
Again, I, nor anyone, never said it was illegal to do any of those things. Please stop insisting it.
I said nothing of "cop sense" or reasonable cause for arrest either. He was not trying to convict or even arrest him- at this stage of an investigation there are no facts. There is nothing illegal about an officer asking for id during an investigation. This is not seizing it, it is asking for it.
"if he hadn't tried to force an illegal search"
Asking "Can I see your id?" is not an illegal search. Searching him for it without his consent or without legal basis would be an illegal search.
"he should have determined this, and gone on his way"
I first saw this video a few days ago, and I'm guessing you haven't got the chance yet. There could have been nothing seen by officer to determine if there was assualt there or not. Especially with the drunk father refusing to answer questions (and as has been pointed out before, it's ridiculous to suggest a proper questioning of the daughter with the father standing over her).
"No cop has a duty to stick his nose anywhere"
Do you actually believe that? That police should wait for proof of a crime happening before even investigating or looking into it? There goes police responding to 911 calls, screams in dark alleys, burly men unloading TVs out of a truck at 4am (oh no! stereotypes!), and a trailer park wife with two black eyes saying her husband doesn't beat her. All of which thousands of police currently respond to by persisting to ask questions and looking around to investigate.
But that's apparently illegal now.
I said nothing of "cop sense" or reasonable cause for arrest either. He was not trying to convict or even arrest him- at this stage of an investigation there are no facts. There is nothing illegal about an officer asking for id during an investigation. This is not seizing it, it is asking for it.
"if he hadn't tried to force an illegal search"
Asking "Can I see your id?" is not an illegal search. Searching him for it without his consent or without legal basis would be an illegal search.
"he should have determined this, and gone on his way"
I first saw this video a few days ago, and I'm guessing you haven't got the chance yet. There could have been nothing seen by officer to determine if there was assualt there or not. Especially with the drunk father refusing to answer questions (and as has been pointed out before, it's ridiculous to suggest a proper questioning of the daughter with the father standing over her).
"No cop has a duty to stick his nose anywhere"
Do you actually believe that? That police should wait for proof of a crime happening before even investigating or looking into it? There goes police responding to 911 calls, screams in dark alleys, burly men unloading TVs out of a truck at 4am (oh no! stereotypes!), and a trailer park wife with two black eyes saying her husband doesn't beat her. All of which thousands of police currently respond to by persisting to ask questions and looking around to investigate.
But that's apparently illegal now.
