Hybrids are the worst of both worlds, not the best. EREVs you could argue are the BOBW, hybrids are high-complexity and lower efficiency for a less punchy/quiet/low-cost result.

#2 and #3 are spot on.

#1 is a nice-to have but not vital. Most EV owners, unless they are road-tripping, never, EVER use a for-pay charger. I own 2 EVs and have never paid for non-home electrons except to test plug and software compatibility for a just-in-case scenario. Not once. Even on vacation, driving an EV around a national park, the hotel provided free charging and the national park provided free charging.

Now IF you got #2 and #3, you'd start to need #1, because more people would use them.

Agreed hybrids are just a bad idea. If you really need the gas range, you want an EREV, not a hybrid. Good luck finding what you want in one of those right now, though.

The core reality here is both depressing and true. But it's not really the majority. It feels like it is, if you live in a city, but 9 out of 10 of truck owners are not in dense urban areas.

That said, in a dense urban area, I suspect 90% or greater of all pickup trucks are just expensive testicle extensions.

I live in the near-city suburbs. Most of the pickups I see are bought as a statement and never used for cargo. The lightning, which goes fast yes, was perfect for those guys, assuming they owned a home.

If you want a really useful truck, you should import a bongo truck. I am amazed when people (other than perhaps gardeners) profess to me that their 4-foot beds are someone useful. I can get a longer 2x4 in my hatchback than they can in their truck. I was car shopping just last week, looking at the PV5. The guy I was with was drooling over it, because it could hold way, WAY more stuff than his 4ft bed pickup.

A friend of mine in Montana had precisely this experience, after buying a PHEV RAV4.

However, he's an intelligent person who notices things.

If you cannot charge at home, their cost per mile goes up to the same as a gas car's or more.

Right now, if you don't own your home, or are not sure you'll be in a house for a long time, buying an EV is foolish.

But I think the right answer here is not to mistakenly downgrade EVs -- we should be making sure parking lots provide 120v plugs. 120v is all more than half of the US needs to handle their day-to-day driving, and is cheap to install. Remember -- EVs never, ever draw more than a $30 space heater on a 120v circuit -- 1500 watts.

Agreed.

Hybrids and plug-in hybrids to boot, are indeed not EVs. They have all the complexity of an ICE car + the complexity of an EV. They are frankly nuts.

EREV cars should replace them in the very near future. People won't really notice the difference, and EREVs are cheaper to make, less complex, and give you a more performant car with less emissions for less money than a hybrid.

Unless of course, you buy the idea that dealers want complexity because they make some of their money on service/oil changes, and they want things to break. Honestly, that makes real sense. But it should make everyone avoid dealers all the more.

I agree in general. They're mostly all the same and all way too big, and a stupid shape to boot.

But try driving a used Bolt. They're cheap, get good range (they charge too slow for road tripping but fine on a 120v or 240v plug) and a good size.

New Bolts, when they start making them again, just support your argument -- they are only going to make the EUV/larger model going forward.

I completely agree with your replies above. I'd like to expand/amplify just a bit.

If you do not have a single-family home or a (these are so rare) intelligent apartment setup an EV is NOT a good idea -- it's a terrible idea in fact. But the poster above shouldn't be crapping on EVs, he should be pissed that we haves are getting a great deal, and a better, safer car than him. He pays more for gas, more for maintenance, more for medical bills, more for fire damage (statistically speaking), etc. The original poster should be angry he cannot have one, not claiming what is obviously right for more than 60% of people in the US is somehow only for a tiny slice.

Meanwhile, dude, urban people, where urban means apartment dwellers, is completely out of touch with reality. Apartment folks in the city cannot have EVs. Gas cars are cheaper per mile without owning a socket to plug them into.

And yes, if you're rich, you're perhaps one of the folks who looks at a balance sheet and figures out the cost effective solution. So yeah, "wealthy" might be on target.

But a poor person who owns a single-family home in most places (even in rural areas) is foolish not to buy a used EV. Used EVs are a steal and make poor people less poor.

WHAT? 70% of the US lives in single family homes. A garage is nice, but not necessary for an EV. Almost everyone with a single-family home will save money and have a better driving and maintenance experience with an EV. EVs are just better. Even road trips with charging go pretty well with them, and that's less than 20 days per year (that's 5% of your days of using the car and it's an outlier -- most drive less on road trips than that). So some inconvenience on road trips is made up for by the cost savings and increased safety, convenience, and joy of driving EVs give you the rest of the time. More than 55% of households in the US own more than one car. If you have a gas car for road trips, it makes no sense at all for the second car to not be an EV.

Oh, wait... were you not off by more than 70% on your number because you were thinking of folks in China and India, not the US? Well, they're going EV like gangbusters, because it turns out cheaper, cleaner, more reliable, and safer appeals to them too.

It is the topic. The oil companies fund the politicians, the politicians stay in power by any means necessary. Cronyism pays the bills. We've gone from being one of the least corrupt political systems (not THE least corrupt, but 22nd from the best CPI in 2010, to 69th now) to this. And the voting system and the gerrymandering is the only thing keeping them in. They are doing everything they can to milk the last few bucks out of this situation before they get booted.

A white penis. That needs to be included.

I heard any number of excuses about why to not vote for Kamala. None of them stood up to any mild rebuttal very well. But very few of those people then said "and so I'm voting for Trump." They knew he was crap. But they voted for him quietly just the same.

It would have helped if Kamala was a wonk who voiced her positions rather than pointed to the online documents her people put out. But then, I suspect a good number of these people would have said she was not worthy of the office because she was a wonk.

Vacuum Wars.
https://vacuumwars.com/vacuum-...

They test the various robots and some are reasonably good at the pet hair situation.

That said, the huge innovation in robot vacuums came out of countries where they have few carpets, and they like their floors really, really clean: Japan and Korea. China has taken it over, but the cultural influence from those two countries where you sit and sleep on the floor is huge on these devices.