Oh right, just blame the elderly for having worked, bought houses, paid taxes and saved. The post war generation wasn't provided with enough schools, universities, and now we are the baddies. In 1946 the Government was told to invest Ni money to provide for the pensions of this generation, but they wasted it on wars on behalf of US, and now it's all our fault, right, you must be right, because our truthful government told you so, you prat!

Oh yes, all the media, the politicians and intellectuals wanted to stay in. It was only the stupid that wanted to come out. So the fact that people objected to a non-elected, bureaucratic elite in a foreign country ruling them, even though the same elite haven't managed to get their accounts passed in years, beacause millions are lost with no paper trail to say where it went. The same bozos now want us to give them 39 billion without anything in return. So despite that, you think those that voted to come out are stupid?

The South West of England is NOT obscure, nor is our English. Twerp!

Who wrote this "fake news"? Mr Trump's press office?

Me neither. Hell will freeze over before I vote for the lackeys of 'Big Business". "all in it together" my eye!

It's lack of financial responsibility and stuff like this and the 27 states wonder why the UK is leaving. Well the answer is that we hate the lack of control of our own borders, the lack of democracy and the enormous bills.

Thanks for reminding me of that.

Well, I'll have to rethink then. I thought I had read that the 5 was not suitable for iOS 11. It did make me very disappointed in Apple, but if you are right then I went off half-cocked.

Well, my UK iPhone 5s is about three years old, and I am pissed with Apple, it's the last IPhone I shall buy. My iPad isn't much younger, and when that refuses to update, I look for an alternative elsewhere. I have used Macs and other Apple products for decades, but the current money grabbing bunch can whistle for my custom in future. No wonder iPhone sales are dropping.

I think this is ridiculous even if it is a Pro product. It's a phone, not a computer, or even an iPad. I don't upgrade every time now, at this price I'd buy a Samsung, especially as in the U.K. We seem to pay £1 per dollar on Apple product.

Service industries are what got the UK and US into this mess in the first place, remember the banking crisis and Thatcher's dismantling of U.K. mining and manufacturing business some of those areas still have major problems decades later. Go ahead and snear at retail works, but just think it might be your job next, even if you are a "techie'.

Some of us worked it out decades ago, it's just our stupid Governments that when asked to jump, ask'how high'.

Maybe the Brits will remember this when US wants to borrow our infantry, who return maimed or in body bags, sometimes injured by ' friendly fire'.

Funny how 'the special relationship' means the UK provides troops for US military adventures, but we have to have a visa to come to US, whereas you don't need one to come here. I think for a lot of UK tourists this will be the deal breaker. I won't be submitting to personal questions about my politics etc, even if I am a white, female 70 year old.

Try saying that in Edinburgh or Aberdeen, where the inhabitants feel they speak the purest English.