So True, Guessing you had a wonderfully time visiting the factories. My problem they won't say no they just won't do it after they committed.

Actually you may be the exception because most MBAs are idiots. Many MBA have unreal expectations about how fast they should get promoted and thus leave. I prefer to hire MSEE or PHDs before MBA's because they stick around when making a low 6 figure salary with pension. The MBA's loose site about value and start to nickel and dimming the design. Many times in the predesign process they will say you can't do something because it cost too much. This intern kills the future product and thus innovation stops except for simple concepts which for the most part you will find 5 other companies doing the same thing. By the way I think you missed the big picture and its companies like GM that don't have careers for engineers. Your promotions at GM stop at director or VP level(Note: Levels are different than banking)

Oh well at least they can rant a rave about how america gave aways this technology to the EU. An when astronauts die because we are again using a liquid based rocket like delta or something similar they can again complain that the president was wrong to cut the program. So many opinions with so many options and so little money.

First idiots with MBA make twice as much in 4 years than most engineers. Pay for the average engineer tops out after just 8 years. That's even with a masters degree so maybe that's why they need this plan. Students aren't stuppid why should they waste a career/lifetime for a dead end job. Sure one out of a hundred engineers make it to the big time but the vast majority retire making only 30% more than a new grad. So don't study engineering/CS because your are just cattle for the real players. The real players just hate paying people. You can't ever have enough