Comment Re:Comedy... (Score 1) 508
No, he is not full of shit...
Simply because runas and sudo are two very different beasts.
True, with runas you can do *some* administration and installs, but a lot of your efforts will bite the dust. At least, that is my experience.
One example for you... Login to W2K as user, and start cmd as Administrator through runas. Now try to run any program from that cmd. Tough luck - none of what you run from there will work as if you are an administrator! Is it retarded or what?
Now have you ever tried running IE or Explorer with runas? They won't run. But IE is needed to run Windows Update... So tough luck here. Unless you have automatic updates enabled, you WILL need to login as a real administrator to install updates. And, yes, this is a real problem for me in one of my installations: a computer that is running an LC-MSD instrument. I cannot turn on autoupdates since the machine will reboot at will, and people's experiments will get screwed up. It has to be up and logged on as a certain user at all times. So I choose the lesser evil - I update it manually. Since I do not always have a chance to do so (instrument is always in use and software startup takes 30 minutes once it has been shut down), I frequently end up 0wned and screeching my teeth. This machine was one of the 3 other similar ones on campus hit by Blaster (yes, I knew about the vulnerability, but due to totally retarded and bastardized implementations of runas and Winblows Update I could not patch in time).
Simply because runas and sudo are two very different beasts.
True, with runas you can do *some* administration and installs, but a lot of your efforts will bite the dust. At least, that is my experience.
One example for you... Login to W2K as user, and start cmd as Administrator through runas. Now try to run any program from that cmd. Tough luck - none of what you run from there will work as if you are an administrator! Is it retarded or what?
Now have you ever tried running IE or Explorer with runas? They won't run. But IE is needed to run Windows Update... So tough luck here. Unless you have automatic updates enabled, you WILL need to login as a real administrator to install updates. And, yes, this is a real problem for me in one of my installations: a computer that is running an LC-MSD instrument. I cannot turn on autoupdates since the machine will reboot at will, and people's experiments will get screwed up. It has to be up and logged on as a certain user at all times. So I choose the lesser evil - I update it manually. Since I do not always have a chance to do so (instrument is always in use and software startup takes 30 minutes once it has been shut down), I frequently end up 0wned and screeching my teeth. This machine was one of the 3 other similar ones on campus hit by Blaster (yes, I knew about the vulnerability, but due to totally retarded and bastardized implementations of runas and Winblows Update I could not patch in time).
