Journal tuxette's Journal: yeah, whatever 20
Third interview done with and over and it was shit. I basically got the impression that the guy does not want to hire a woman. He was too hung up on my being a samboer (live-in partner), too hung up on my lack of experience in certain specific areas, too hung up on my being female in a male-dominated profession, etc. He basically looked for everything negative he could. And each time I tried to say something/defend myself, I was abruptly cut off. He just seemed annoyed the whole time, as if he did't want to be there. Which made me feel stupid trying to be positive and cheerful. It seems like the only thing I have going for me is that I know how to use Linux. But I doubt that's enough.
Whatthefuckever.
Don't read too much into it (Score:1)
Maybe he was having a bad day or he was simply trying to see how you handle yourself in a stressful and frustrating situation: are you going to cave in or are you going to headbutt him with the spikes? I know it's not the same thing, but when I interview potential PhD students, I like to provoke them by commenting on some uncharacteristically
Re:Don't read too much into it (Score:2)
Supposedly sometime next week. The sooner the better. I just want it all to be done and overwith.
Maybe he was having a bad day or he was simply trying to see how you handle yourself in a stressful and frustrating situation: are you going to cave in or are you going to headbutt him with the spikes? I know it's not the same thing, but when I interview potential PhD students, I like to provoke them by commenting on some uncharacteristically poor grade or their lack of
Re:Don't read too much into it (Score:2)
Hope this helps. [google.com] I think they're cute!
Don't let that guy bother you too much, he's just a jerk and doesn't know how to react around normal people (or penguins as it is in your case). Hope things turn out in your favor! :-)
Re:Don't read too much into it (Score:2)
wow, okay... i don't think you'd want to work there in the first place. If this is the attitude they permit then I would run, not walk, away from any company that hires people that could foster this thinking (enough so to express it in a *third* interview).
Here in the US, there are topics that are NOT allowed to be even hinted at in a job interview. Sexual orientation, social/family statu
Re:Don't read too much into it (Score:1)
I think it's much less regulated here.
While I was still a student and applied for a summer programming job an interviewer scoffed at me for having been relieved from our compulsory military service for health reasons (=asthma). Didn't get that job...
Also not having your social status (married, single, divorced) in your CV is a sure way to guarantee that it'll be asked in a job interview.
Personally, I'd like more regulation in this matter.
Re:Don't read too much into it (Score:1)
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Heh. I don't even know if our military does much R&D, but sometimes I've been eyeing NATO partnership programs as a possible source for funds.
Re:Don't read too much into it (Score:2)
Interviews here are usually friendly, and seem more geared towards who you are as a person, and perhaps a test of real motivation for wanting the job, than what you
Re:Don't read too much into it (Score:2)
Ideally the interviews should be done over the phone with a voice modulator and so you can't discriminate by sex only a number should be used or we should all change names to Pat or Chris or other sexually duplicitous names. OK maybe I went a bit too far there? I was turned down for a job, that I seemed ideally suited for, because (and the hiring person told me this) I looked too young. Had I been the suing type I probably
Re:Don't read too much into it (Score:2)
What if your ability to do the job involves things like not being in a situation where you have to run home every time your kiddie has a cold or something?
Re:Don't read too much into it (Score:2)
Even so most people seem to be able to work around it (have spouse/partner run home, have relative provide daycare, etc.).
Beyond that even if you don't have children there are any number of things that can distract someone from work and require sudden mid-day departures. Dealing with aging parents, brother/sister having a crisis, marrages/partnerships breaking up, buying a house, etc. If anything these situations are far more disruptive than a co-worker de
Re:Don't read too much into it (Score:2)
The assumption is most women in a professional career field will return to work fairly quickly after they have a baby.
If anything most companies in the US are all too happy to hire a qualified woman for programming or system administration postitions because it can help show that they don't discriminate based on gender.
Job hopping in the high-tech world in the US is so rampant anyway that most companies
Re:Don't read too much into it (Score:2)
Over here, you get a year of paid maternity leave, mandated by law. So I can understand how it can be a problem for this company.
As for other companies, I could try IBM, but never Accenture. I know people who used to work there, and not one has anything nice to say about that company.
Re:Don't read too much into it (Score:2)
You don't have to take it if you don't want to, do you?
I've seen women who didn't even take the meager amount of unpaid or even paid maternity leave that most US companies offer.
Presumably if you like your job you probably want to keep doing it (not to mention some new parents find work a welcome break every day).
In any case assuming you don't plan on having children the best
Yeah, he does sound like a jerk (Score:1)
I, for one, am rooting for you. Don't give up hope.
But do you give them a chance to explain and/or defend themselves? This guy kept making snide comments and rudely interrupted every time I opened my beak.
No, not really. I don't have the heart to press anyone that hard.
Anyway, it's very good to hear that you kept your cool in the interview. A crying penguin would have only served to "confirm" this guy's sexist preconceptions and an enraged penguin would have labelled yo
Re:Yeah, he does sound like a jerk (Score:1)
Ok. Should have previewed that.
Of course I let them reply (what's the point in my question if I don't?). I don't have the heart to press anyone so hard that I wouldn't let them explain.
Re:Yeah, he does sound like a jerk (Score:2)
Ubiquitous Question (for Women) (Score:2)
FWIW, I have never met a woman in her twenties/early thirties something with a university degree applying for a job in Sweden who has not got that question. I have never met a ditto man who has. It's just one of those things they ask/are told to ask. There is no answer, of course, except possibly to stare the questioner straight into his (it's always his) eyes and coldly state that you don't plan to have children for at least a
Re:Ubiquitous Question (for Women) (Score:2)
Simple Solution (Score:2)