Why don't they just quit? In this economic climate I think many people are thankful they *have* a job. Thinking about quitting is the last thing on their minds.

I used to think like that and stayed with Oracle much too long putting up with management's BS. Now I work for Google for a few months and couldn't be happier. Google is hiring developers aggressively "in this economic climate". Opportunities are there, you just need to look for them.

I heard a spiel how Oracle Fusion apps will be all standards based, built on open platform. An answer to a question "Will they run under JBoss?" was a quick "No, never! Standards based meant Oracle Application Server!". Now you know.