First off, if you even spent 5 seconds reading the title on that page, you'd realize that it is a comparison between H.264 encoders and that the point I was making is that PSNR can't be trusted for anything.

Now, if you want some screenshots of the "new and improved" Theora failing, here:

http://saintdevelopment.com/media/ [saintdevelopment.com]

Notice how the "new" thungrewhatever build has somehow miraculously gotten worse than the old stable version. Also note that it is easily beaten by decades old formats like Xvid and even incomplete crap like Snow.

First off, if you even spent 5 seconds reading the title on that page, you'd realize that it is a comparison between H.264 encoders and that the point I was making is that PSNR can't be trusted for anything. Now, if you want some screenshots of the "new and improved" Theora failing, here: http://saintdevelopment.com/media/ [saintdevelopment.com] Notice how the "new" thungrewhatever build has somehow miraculously gotten worse than the old stable version. Also note that it is easily beaten by decades old formats like Xvid and even incomplete crap like Snow.

First off, if you even spent 5 seconds reading the title on that page, you'd realize that it is a comparison between H.264 encoders and that the point I was making is that PSNR can't be trusted for anything. Now, if you want some screenshots of the "new and improved" Theora failing, here: http://saintdevelopment.com/media/ [saintdevelopment.com] Notice how the "new" thungrewhatever build has somehow miraculously gotten worse than the old stable version. Also note that it is easily beaten by decades old formats like Xvid and even incomplete crap like Snow.

First off, if you even spent 5 seconds reading the title on that page, you'd realize that it is a comparison between H.264 encoders and that the point I was making is that PSNR can't be trusted for anything.

Now, if you want some screenshots of the "new and improved" Theora failing, here:

http://saintdevelopment.com/media/

Notice how the "new" thungrewhatever build has somehow miraculously gotten worse than the old stable version. Also note that it is easily beaten by decades old formats like Xvid and even incomplete crap like Snow.

PSNR not only does "not measure perceived quality", it's also of next to zero worth in determining the effectiveness of a codec. For one, x264's psychovisual optimizations actually drop the PSNR and SSIM of the output compared to a non-psychovisually optimized encode. For an example of how meaningless PSNR is, look at

http://mirror05.x264.nl/Dark/x264vsElecard/

Of worth noting is that in these screenshots, Elecard has a higher PSNR than x264.