The commodore 128 had twice the ram of a C64, had hot-plugging cartridges, and no internal drives. It was passively cooled, with external 5 1/4 Flolppy drive that were notoriously bad because of long loading times, and misaligned heads. They never canceled, It Was Released. I know, because my Dad bought one at the PX in Fort Knox, Kentucky. Swear to god, you guys are NuTs. They came out with the Amiga 500 after their production run ended with the C128, and sold the Amiga 500 as Video Toasters for the media companies like Mondo2000 and production editing on T.V. and satellite to make commercials with. I know, because I use to subscribe to Amiga World, and the video toaster had the same specs as the Amiga 500, et all, I've never seen one, but it was just basically one of the worlds first graphic cards, that had advanced Color palettes.

You guys are wieRdOs. They did make the Commodore 128, but it was pretty clunky and slow. I burned the play disks to Secret of the Silver blades, because I died in that labyrinthine game everytime I moved one street over, it would like friggin 3 minutes to load another battle. But I'll Give You, It Was Better Than A Tire Swing/Tree House.

The problem isn't the argument, but entrenched services.

Take for example Scientists who live in a city, chances are they live in a floodplain of a river.
The river builds dikes by flooding occasionally, and we build dikes so it's "service" to our community doesn't change course.
Like city services, drainage, water supplies, waste removal, regeneration of cropland, recreation. But here's the catch, those services are blue-chip stocks in the world of environmental-services-equity/capital. It's almost literally impossible to re-invent those, but business plans are entrenched in our services they provide, like a time-and-spatially located river. One has to rebuild the entire river bed, and all your points of access to the services provided by a river WHILE YOUR LIVING IN THE FLOODPLAIN of an entrenched and entrained River system.

And your right, it's not impossible. But that's why we need to renew, redesign, and regenerate our River or our Time/Space problems. Things are literally not going to change, unless we Reinvent the problem with the help of scientists. Because our conservation movement with Recycle, Reuse, and Reduce did not predict a throw-away society and dipsoable plastics. It wasn't a thing we'd invented yet when we were building things in the CCC and the New Deal. We literally fighting the same war again as we were in the dirty 30's.

And it's largely because we aren't using Perrenial Crops like KernzaTM and No-till Methods and conserving our natural assests.

aND it goes back to what we've inherited which caused the first Dust-Bowl and which caused the first Black Tuesday and the second World War and worldwide hardship

Entrenched and Entrained Business Plans and Methods, Like a river, they aren't denying the science, They're denying things like Cause and Effect and Philosophy of Science, and rational thought itself through the use of Fallacies of Logic to debate with in our Union of Congress, probably because that's always worked too, to go with your gut instinct. Which is logical, since feelings are a part of critical thinking.

They're just not logical arguments unto themselves, and neither are denier's fallacies they're using to blame us to death our science isn't real.

That's a new fallacy for the books,
Deniers Fallacy - To make me prove what you doubt!

DECADE? Try a thousand years, if we aren't sequestering greenhouse gasses yesterday, bacteria and fungus will invent fire in the New World Order.

you're right. Famine is one of the leading causes of civil war.

Happened in Ethiopia, Kenya, Congo, Even Germany was short of food, and we saw it happen in Syria, too.

And then we get hit by a flying asteroidal spaghetti monster!

your just talking about conservation, when we really need bioamplification instead of victory gardens. We need governmental oversight to say, "here you soldiers of business, save us from tyranny and apathy of Empire Building."

Another solution is "Upcycling"Tm our waste products into better products, like carpets into couches, into plastic bricks for houses type stuff.

Another solution is "Work Less, Earn Less, Buy Less Crap, And Spend more time with your family" Tm

And yet another solution is "Recycle, Reduce, Reuse" Tm (this is what we're doing here)

And YET another solution is, "Renew, Redesign, and Regenerate" TM

that's the premise of Kiss The Ground, regenerate the soil.

A hyperbaric hydrogen car would take us to net zero.
So would Fusion Power!!

The good news is, We can do ALL OF THESE AT THE SAME TIME. There is no final solution! Ya!

Victory Gardens will save you money and help you neighbors in the way of small changes. Small changes though will save the planet just like victory gardens did not win WWII or WWI.

BioAmplification, small changes pervasive to every business plan, will, but it has to governmental change to the basic business plan of our destruction of our planet for share-holder profit. Change has to be on every level, like something like hydrogen-synthesized-propane cars and trucks. And That's Just Net Zero.

We're Already at levels higher than last time we had a Actual Greenhouse before the last Ice Ages. We're at levels never seen before in the fossil record. So where are your solutions since scientist have been talking about this for the last 30 years!?

Kiss the Ground, a movie on netflix, has a good solution with regenerative farming and soil conservation. But we're not gonna nuke the sky and get out of this without removing Carbon, if and when we get to net zero. We literally can't if methane is being released into the atmosphere which a greater greenhouse gas by 10x CO2.

This is happening in the Arctic Ocean too, several years ago I saw pictures of boiling water from the arctic because of Methane hydrates, this is Not new, I don't know who really believes that, and I doubt the scientists really do either. We've known for several years the Permafrost in Siberia and Alaska(probably Canada too) that it's been Rotting. We even found a dead caveman remember with a knife wound, when it started rotting a decade ago. And Methane is a much worse greenhouse gas than CO2 like 10x worse (though with a shorter half-life) Just more proof policy is a day late and a dollar short. Shitty Halloween, We're Fucked.

What if the Physicist Farts in There?