they'd rather make a gnustep version on par with the google-chrome on osx (isn't that already based on cocoa)?

They'd stop android, or replace it with GNUstep... the only chance for Linux on the desktop is GNUstep. Because gtk, qt, fltk and what not are a pain, seriously (and by gtk, qt I mean GNOME and KDE). Likewise goes for Canonical/Ubuntu.

"One could say that GNUstep is a very nice woman, but without proper make-up and with a shabby dress. Although the expert eye could see the star sparkle, the average person maybe would prefer a more normal female with choosen make-up and dress." -- http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=13189460&postID=112497309425424497

http://goliat.eik.bme.hu/~balaton/gnustep/opal/ https://github.com/gnustep/gnustep-opal

That's absolutely right, even today, GNUstep is 15 years ahead of KDE(qt) and GNOME(gtk). Look at the API's, try to write one single graphical app with qt or gtk. Compare the lines of code and time compared to develop the same graphical application made with GNUstep (or Xcode on Mac OS X) using the Cocoa API (which is nothing else but Foundation Kit and Application Kit).

It isn't faster to code on NeXTstep; you just have to write less of it. The revolution is "getting rid of software". -- http://www.paullynch.org/NeXTSTEP/Savoy.1992.htmld/

I went like Canon IXUS v3, Canon Ixus 80, Canon EOS 500D (DSLR), got my first prime L lens some time later, then sold the EF-S lenses, then the 500D, got the EOS 5D II (which is very nice). Got some more L lenses. Got my own photo studio and studio lights, light formers, and then I took this picture: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aiei/6385882661/ Now I'm with Phase One 645 DF with a Phase One P25 (digital medium format). The DSLRs are great to learn about aperture and time variables. Oh and once you start with the lights, don't forget the light meter. I don't want to miss it. My friends are like taking 5 - 20 pictures with flash to finally get an approximately right lightning. A good picture is made of 60 % light, 30 % lens, 10 % camera.

they had OPENSTEP, the father of Mac OS X (Cocoa). but they stomped it for Java.... FAIL!

Unless they add a real time edit css/html and display, this is just a big disaster of software project. Luckily there's Google Chrome and Chromium. Mozilla didn't manage to fix some bugs in their code since > 5 years, that makes it a hell to use if you've got your config files on NFS.

Luckily there's GNUstep, however it could be where GNOME/KDE are now. If SUN would have released the Lighthouse Applications: http://www.noodlesoft.com/blog/2007/01/23/the-sun-also-sets/ http://talblog.info/archives/2007/01/sundown.html http://livecd.gnustep.org/ Scott McNealy unfortunately failed to find theses sources... saying he can't find it. I hope Java dies soon. And Sony SNAP gets born... but I doubt, it's SONY.