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  • I've never claimed to understand euro-politics and certainly never France. However, I just don't get their foreign policy. Even those who don't LIKE our policy understand the logic. We support Israel, in part, because of our Christian heritage. (My apologies if this is historically flawed, but it's why I believe we support them...it's specifically stated in the Bible that supporting Israel is the best course). Even if you don't think we SHOULD have gone to war, it was obvious WHY. We wanted Saddam out
    • Not that I have a clue if the Bible mentions supporting Israel as the best course or not, but just because it's in the bible does that make it right?
      • From my limited experiences, any church that deviates from the written word (and I'm not talking about literal words taken out of context, such as "If your eye commits sin, pluck it out") starts heading down the wrong path.

        To cut straight to the heart of your question: For a Christian, it's a usually rhetorical question. The Word is His, so it must be right. Does that mean we'll understand it? Not necessarily. The best analogy I have heard was written on a whiteboard. If the entire white board was al

        • So the answer to your question for me is, "Yes without a doubt." The answer for you may be different.

          That's postmodernism, if you meant that literally as you wrote it. The answer is "yes" regardless of what you believe. The Holy Bible is right not because anyone believes it is right. The consequences of God's promises and the truths about the world expressed in His Word are played out in the world affecting everyone, the informed and ignorant, believers and rebels, alike. The application of Biblical wisdo

          • Of course, it all depends on whether you believe there in only One True God or if you believe in many gods, of which the Christian God is but one. If you believe in many gods, than the answer is not "yes, regardless", it's "yes, for the Christians"

          • The consequences of God's promises...are played out in the world affecting everyone...

            What so often frustrates me is that that people ignore the fact that this applies to both the negative and the positive consequences of His promises. Jesus died not just for those who believe in Him, but for everyone, while we were yet sinners. He died not just for the church going Christian, but for those who believe in other religions, even the radical Islamists. He died for John Kerry and John Edwards. He died for
            • Yet Jesus never advocated taking violence against the Roman occupiers.

              I think this is because Jesus came as the Suffering Servant (Isaiah 53) 2000 years ago. In His second coming, He will return as the Ruling King of justice and righteousness (Jeremiah 33:14-17). In Judaism [aish.com] (scroll down to Lineage), the "two Messiahs" are called Mashiach ben Yosef (Messiah son of Joseph) and Mashiach ben Dovid (Messiah son of David).

              We should not forget that the Son of God is the same God Who told the children of Israel

          • Good catch. I didn't mean it literally so that's a misleading statement I made. Just as people thought the Earth was flat, that didn't make it true (you can tell I like analogies). I just meant they might not decide to believe it. I believe the passage that states something to the effect that God puts himself in every man's heart. So everyone is capable of knowing His grace. It's up to each individual to seek a relationship with him. If you deny Him, well...He gave you a chance. But the outcome is k
        • OK, so if it's yes without a doubt how do you deal with contradictions between things in there? I'm not a biblical scholar and perhaps my example will be out of context (like you warned me). But for instance: eye for an eye vs. turn the other cheek.

          At the end of the day you're relying on a book written by people, and then in turn translated in to other languages which may also have changed the original meaning of the word.

          • ... how do you deal with contradictions between things in there? ... But for instance: eye for an eye vs. turn the other cheek.

            Eye for an eye means that the punishment should be commensurate with the crime. Turn the other cheek means don't take offense when jerks hurl baseless insults and try to make you mad.

            • ok, so it was a bad example. But, surely there must be some contradictions in there.

              (Goes googling for contradictions in the bible)

              OK, how about this one:

              Which first--beasts or man?
              GEN 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
              GEN 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of

              • Oh man, this is going to be the beginning of a VERY LONG thread. :-) I really don't have time dig up answers to every Bible question. I happened to know the previous answer off the top of my head.

                I do know that the answer here is that the beasts were created before man. The Genesis FAQ [answersingenesis.org] gives more explanation.


              • In summary, the chronological order of Gen 2:19 is that Adam named the animals. Otherwise it would be, "And then out of the ground...". Also note that they were "God formed" in the past tense.

                But that just means that it is a stretch to accuse these verses of being in conflict. The real story of what is going on is dealt with in my oldest [slashdot.org] recorded [slashdot.org] /. Journal Entries. Especially in the comments.
      • It does if you're a Christian...

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