From my personal experience (computer) engineering pays a reasonable starting wage but there is no career path to speak of unless you jump into management. I do plenty to keep my skills up to date and all that really does is keep me at the same senior level salary I had 7 years ago...
Oddly enough, my organization has opportunities to move up and stay technical by moving to the research side of the house. The problem is, you also have to move to the geographic location of one of the labs.
JFK's dad was JFK, just an average Joe.
Close. His initials were JPK
Considering Tarzan or Hunchback original stretches the meaning of the word further than any word should ever reasonably expect to be stretched.
What Disney has traditionally been good at is retelling an older story in a format that both kids and their parents enjoy watching.
Damn! I was sure he said there was a frog in his bidet...
Interesting. I wonder what other liquors, or even wines might benefit from this trick?
Well, wine is already in the 10%-20% alcohol range (as opposed to whiskey at ~40%), so you've essentially already benefited from this effect. Essentially any mixed drink made with a harder liquor is going to take advantage of this, however
First of all, I'm talking way younger than dolls or bob the builder. Boys and girls start acting like boys or girls after just a few months of age.
OK, so give me some examples of boy or girl specific behavior that would occur at an age early enough they were not getting toys. And what age are you thinking?
Secondly, it makes no difference which toys you give to which gender. Like I said earlier, you give a boy a doll, and he will play with it as though it were a ball or a tank or some other type of vehicle. You give a girl a fire truck, and she'll feed it a bottle. Same thing with gender-neutral toys. Give a boy legos, and he'll build a fort and smash it. Give the exact same legos to a girl, and she'll bake you a cake.
Anecdotes are just that. My daughter loves building things with blocks or legos (or having me build them when she was younger) and then proceeding to smash them. Yes, she is also nurturing to some of her stuffed animals.
I don't blame you for thinking I'm crazy. Before I had kids, I wouldn't have believed it, either. But if you look at the responses here from other parents, you'll see that I'm not an anomaly.
Let me state, one last time, that you missed the entire point of all my posts: The differences are observable, BUT they are as much an effect of the way society treats kids as they are of nature. As a parent, you are probably aware that young children are sponges, absorbing everything they see or hear, even if you don't notice it.
For example, many people here have cited examples of male toddlers playing with make believe guns. I ask you to consider if they created the entire concept of a gun (including the shape) out of their imagination, or if they saw a clip on television or a billboard somewhere that showed a male grown-up holding a gun. Which do you think is more likely?
Sponges, I say.
People treat little kids differently based on whether they are a boy or a girl, regardless of what you as a parent want (or even what the kid wants).
I'd love to hear an example of that. Remember, I'm talking about kids who aren't even 1 year old yet.
Sure. What do kids get as a gifts for (insert holiday celebration of your choice) from their relatives (especially Grandma/Grandpa)? Do the girls all get Bob the builder toys and the boys get a play kitchen and dolls? Probably not.
Your "wearing pink" example is silly. How would a 9-month-old know that pink is a "girl" color?
How do you know that pink is a "girl" color? It's societal. Society thinks that pink is a "girl" color, so people tend to give girls pink clothes. The girls then either like the color or recognize that they get positive reinforcement for liking it (e.g. grandma smiles and says "How cute!") and wear it more often.
That might be true, but we noticed the differences since long before they were old enough to even have a gender identity. How could a child take clues from society about his or her gender roles before even knowing his or her own gender?
Unless you dress your kid in earth tones and name them "Pat", society at large knows if they are a boy or a girl and treats them "appropriately". If the relatives always give your kid pink things, chances are the kid will be predisposed towards wearing pink. No self-knowledge required on your offspring's part. People treat little kids differently based on whether they are a boy or a girl, regardless of what you as a parent want (or even what the kid wants).
In the end, you do what you can to give your kids the tools to break free from gender stereotypes, but it really is up to them.
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