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Comment Re:Liar-In-Chief (Score 1) 436
Also Obama has deported more illegal immigrants than any other president in history. If you have to cherry-pick facts to support your narrative, you're probably wrong. Immigration is a complex issue and Obama's response to it is not a simple "sure come in and vote!!!!".
Comment Re:Liar-In-Chief (Score 1) 436
- You have an entire website of people telling you that you and Mashiki understood the video wrong.
- You have a perfectly plausible explanation of why the question / answer are confusing and / or being taken out of context.
- If you choose to interpret Obama's statement slightly differently (in what I argue is the intended way) then what he says is perfectly reasonable, Legal, and repeated later in the interview.
And instead you choose to believe that the only possible explanation for this fragment of a sentence is that Obama is instructing Illegals to vote. Okay dude, believe what you want. Even if he was doing that they are still unable to vote because they can't get on the voter roles.
Comment Re:Liar-In-Chief (Score 1) 436
Obama misunderstood the question because of the host's incorrect use of the word "citizen". If you listen to what he says it's clear.
Oh piss off. Questions like this aren't even unscripted, that was as scripted of an interview as you can get. Not only did Obama know the questions beforehand, the people surrounding him did as well.
Even if it was scripted, the host clearly fumbled the question. Like, I don't see how there could possibly be any dispute about that. So if it was scripted then that explains it even better, as Obama was answering the slightly different (scripted) version of the question instead of what was actually asked.
And they can't. Only Citizens can vote, you have to be a Citizen to get on the voter roles in the first place and they always check the voter roles.
Sure explains those cases of illegals voting multiple times doesn't it? Sure explains all those times the democrats are against voter ID laws doesn't it. "Only citizens can vote" and the only way you can tell who's a citizen is with voter ID laws, and ensuring that those voter rolls are accurate. Keep in mind that multiple elections have been lost with a hundred votes or less.
Evidence please? All the actual evidence shows that in-person voter fraud does not really happen.
https://www.brennancenter.org/...
The only form of voter fraud that voter ID laws could possibly prevent, is to prevent someone from showing up and giving a false name and address. That's the whole idea, because your picture and name and address would be on the ID. The ID does not tell you who is a citizen and who is not any more than the voter role does, it merely confirms that you are who you say you are. So to commit that fraud right now a non-citizen would have to walk up and give the name and address of a citizen, and vote under that name. Not only would that already be doubly-illegal, but it's also easily detectable, as when the actual real citizen goes to vote they'll be flagged for voting twice and an investigation will ensue.
Democrats tend to oppose Voter ID first of all because if you're charging for the IDs then that is essentially a poll tax, which is blatantly unconstitutional (24th Amendment). No one should have to pay to vote; the right extends to all citizens, regardless of how poor. They also tend to oppose Voter ID because it's typically a blatant attempt by Republicans to suppress the vote of people who don't already have Driver's Licences (usually poor and Democratic, typically also a minority), not to solve any actual real fraud problems.
Comment Re:Too late.... (Score 1) 436
The question he was answering (which is actually the question that was asked) is "if I vote will immigration come for my family?" The answer is no, actually regardless of if the voter is a citizen or not (but non-citizens are still not able to vote). Mixed in to that answer is the complicating factors of the host's misuse of the word "citizen" and Obama's correct use of the word "citizen". So I get how you can read a transcript of those two lines and come away with a misunderstanding of what he was saying, but if you take the time to think about it and to listen to the rest of the interview I think it's completely clear. Obama was telling citizens to vote to provide a voice for their non-citizen family and friends, and not to believe the lie that immigration will track them down because of their (the citizen's) vote. That's it, nothing else.
Comment Re:Liar-In-Chief (Score 1) 436
"Many of the millennials, dreamers, undocumented -- undocumented citizens, I call them citizens because they contribute to this country. Are fearful of voting, so if I vote will immigration know where I live, will they come for my family and deport us?"
There are three categories of people mentioned:
- millennials - refers to an age group, generally assumed to be citizens
- dreamers - non-citizens who were brought here at a young age and want to be citizens
- "undocumented -- undocumented citizens, I call them citizens because they contribute to this country" - obviously explicitly not citizens, but the host kept repeating and emphasizing "citizen" so the mistake is understandable.
So we're mixing completely different categories of people, including citizens and non-citizens, in a confusing way.
The actual question is "Are fearful of voting, so if I vote will immigration know where I live, will they come for my family and deport us?". The answer to that question is "no", actually regardless of it the voter is a citizen or not. Immigration will not know where you live because of your voter registration. That is what he explicitly says. He also tries to clarify that only citizens can vote in the same sentence, which in was a mistake.
Do you have any evidence that it's scripted, or that the host asked exactly the question that was in the script? Or is that just an assumption on your part so you can continue believing the narrative.
You haven't even bothered to try to explain the second quote or the rest of the speech. If you listen to what he says as a whole, he is very, very clearly talking about Citizens (only) voting. Yes I agree that if you take that one sentence out of context then it can be misconstrued to mean something else, but I think you are the one that does not understand English (or the voter registration process), not Obama.
Comment Re:Liar-In-Chief (Score 2, Informative) 436
"When you vote - you are a citizen yourself - and there is not a situation where the voting roles are transferred over [to immigration or anyone else]."
He's answering the question (which is not quite what she asked) "If I vote will immigration come for my undocumented family members", and the answer is no.
"Part of what is important for Latino Citizens, is to make your voice heard because you are voting for yourself, you are voting friends, family, etc, who may not have a voice, who can't legally vote."
He's very clearly saying that Citizens can and should vote in a way that supports their families and friends. He never says that Illegals can or should vote.
And they can't. Only Citizens can vote, you have to be a Citizen to get on the voter roles in the first place and they always check the voter roles.