Gotcha. You'd be surprised. There are a lot of us, at least here in the US. With states imposing stupid flavor bans, or taxing eliquid to death, to the point where it's cheaper to just smoke cigarettes, we resort to doing it ourselves, and for others. Prohibition just creates black markets. Same old story. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Also, I have personally known people who were able to kick multiple addictions thanks to vaping. No really. People on heroin/fentanyl, alcoholics... all also smoked. Vaping helped them kick nearly all of their vices. Yep, but little Joey shit-face from down the street got caught Juuling at school, and his mom, Karen, was none too pleased, so shut the entire show down! Phillip Morris has other ideas for Joey.

That's just it though. It's not an individual circumstance. Millions of people have been able to break the curse of cigarette smoking addiction through vaping. Now they are trying to take it away from us. Killing off Juul effectively halves the market. I am more concerned about the countless others that are going to not even get the same opportunity that I had to finally quit. They are actively encouraging smokers to continue smoking with these actions. I find that unacceptable.

I've also home-brewed, always been fascinated with all things fermented.

I mix my own eliquids, and have for some time. The FDA is making that increasingly difficult as well, so it doesn't really matter what "brand". The demonization of safer alternatives to nicotine consumption are just fucking silly. Imagine if the same thing were to happen with everyone's favorite drug, caffeine. Oh the horror!

I'm no fan of Juul and their prior business tactics and being in bed with big tobacco. But vaping saves lives. It's a fact. There is no denying it anymore. I've experienced it first hand. An uncle of mine reversed his COPD symptoms after 40+ years of smoking cigarettes using a Juul. I was diagnosed with heart disease in my 30's largely in part because I couldn't quit smoking. A heart attack came soon after, but I still didn't quit. 9 years ago I smoked my last cigarette and switched to vaping. My blood pressure is now normal, I no longer need most of my prescription medications, and nearly normal cholesterol levels for a healthy male of my age. Yet we get the fucking shaft because "the children" and deplorable junk science backed by shitty orgs like the AHA and ALA. And the FDA waving their giant government dick in the air. They should be fucking ashamed of themselves.

What a rediculos name for an octopus, PAUL! Thats a persons name! A persons name! hahahahahaha, Paul.

... that should read "scored less than 0"

...and my score was roughly 0.95. My highest rated model (which I gave a 3), had an average score of 1.36. Eye of the beholder, I suppose... The only models I really scored 0 were models that lacked any hip definition. Basically, models that looked like dudes with tits. A sight that is all too common here in America. Get a treadmill, America.