Comment Re:Poor kids (Score 1) 651
I think you're missing the more important point - the employees can choose to move to another job. They are in no sense "stuck" or forced to stay.
They have mobility, and the "everybody's doing it" notion does not apply to every programming job out there.
Even more importantly - they agreed up front to work for $XXK a year as exempt employees. If they think they are being taken advantage of, they can complain. If they don't see action, they can quit.
You see, people are agreeing to these conditions with their eyes wide open when they had many options open to them. They know their salary, they know they don't get paid hourly, they know if they work past 40 hours they don't get extra money. If they feel they're being asked to work too many hours, they can quit and find other jobs.
These are people that eat well, probably have an SUV. 2 or 3 television sets. Lord knows how many computers. Probably thousands of dollars on their credit cards. They're likely 21, 22 and they make more than many people will ever hope to make. For people who do make more, most of them will reach a $60K mark after decades of experience - and for these people this is the entry level salary.
In short, for their experience level they are extraordinarily well compensated compared to most Americans - urban centers or not. A note to the "standard of living" people: most people in NYC, where I live, do not make $60K a year.
If these people think all programming jobs are unfair, they can give up their SUVs and their monstrous credit card debt and their flat screen TVs and live on the edge of bankruptcy like many people in urban population centers do. Or, if they have a lick of sense, they can almost certainly leverage their experience and get a job outside of the games industry but still in programming which will pay them as well or better.
The real point is that these are people who are well off and who have a multitude of choices. The hours are certainly too long, but it's their choice to work them. If they like it, or accept it, or are too stupid to realize they have choices, that's their problem. I don't weep for individuals who accept a choice and get paid better than the vast majority while doing it.
They have mobility, and the "everybody's doing it" notion does not apply to every programming job out there.
Even more importantly - they agreed up front to work for $XXK a year as exempt employees. If they think they are being taken advantage of, they can complain. If they don't see action, they can quit.
You see, people are agreeing to these conditions with their eyes wide open when they had many options open to them. They know their salary, they know they don't get paid hourly, they know if they work past 40 hours they don't get extra money. If they feel they're being asked to work too many hours, they can quit and find other jobs.
These are people that eat well, probably have an SUV. 2 or 3 television sets. Lord knows how many computers. Probably thousands of dollars on their credit cards. They're likely 21, 22 and they make more than many people will ever hope to make. For people who do make more, most of them will reach a $60K mark after decades of experience - and for these people this is the entry level salary.
In short, for their experience level they are extraordinarily well compensated compared to most Americans - urban centers or not. A note to the "standard of living" people: most people in NYC, where I live, do not make $60K a year.
If these people think all programming jobs are unfair, they can give up their SUVs and their monstrous credit card debt and their flat screen TVs and live on the edge of bankruptcy like many people in urban population centers do. Or, if they have a lick of sense, they can almost certainly leverage their experience and get a job outside of the games industry but still in programming which will pay them as well or better.
The real point is that these are people who are well off and who have a multitude of choices. The hours are certainly too long, but it's their choice to work them. If they like it, or accept it, or are too stupid to realize they have choices, that's their problem. I don't weep for individuals who accept a choice and get paid better than the vast majority while doing it.
