Comment Re:Relative abundance of server variants... (Score 5, Interesting) 388
Okay, it's time to debunk the M$ admins are lazy myth a bit..
Here's my work environment -- the products that I'm supposed to install, after I've chosen the hardware for 700+ desktops, and maintain, after writing policies and ops documentation.
Exchange (10) Servers, IIS (7) Servers, MS-SQL 6.5 and 7 (5) servers, Metaframe/NFuse (4) servers, RAS, VPN, 45 NT servers for general ops of all this stuff, a couple of Debian boxes for internal DNS, FreeBSD running MRTG, Nessus, etc, perform 2nd level support for 8 clueless admins and 6 semi-knowledgable ones. Additionally, let's not forget the "uhh, how do I do a word merge", boss ranting about multicasting (for which I am going to modify configs on 12 cisco Routers and godonlyknows how many switches), write policy and operational documentation for all of this. Manage the "network consultants" than run DNS, e-Trust and FW-1, provide support and knowledgable comment towards a $2mil software app development process in terms of "net and O/S", deploy 2000 server *sigh* next month and ensure that everyone makes a backup occasionally. (play nice with audit, 20 mangers and two other organizations [1 that owns us, 1 that we own]).
If *ANY* of you suckers handle all that daily, and still have time to mess with patches on a regular basis, I'd love to see you in action. This seems to be quite a common scenario for a lot of mid/small size companies, in my experience.
I'd love to live in your dream world. People wonder why I'm an alcoholic. :-P Perhaps if I had a nice farm of 600 identical boxes, I'd be a perfect admin. This is life, folks. Get on with it without making the comments -- without understanding the other side of the fence.
I did realize about three months before codered that we were a screaming hole for IIS exploits. Do I have time to cull through 30+ patches and tinker with which are appropriate to apply? Nope. Result: Nimda runs rampant still this week because I've been stuck in innane meetings all day.
Now: Suppose your boss is used to having a mini-vax, and asked for CPU usage reports by dep't and individual last week. Do you see the uphill battle? We're young. Management in a small/midsize company isn't likely to even understand what they have running, less what should be paid attention to technically. Politics, Politics, Politics all day long. Yay! Well, I guess of the rest of the world got messed, it's okay that we did too.
Have fun admin'n your two Apache boxes. Good Night.
No troll indended, it's just a rant.
S.
Here's my work environment -- the products that I'm supposed to install, after I've chosen the hardware for 700+ desktops, and maintain, after writing policies and ops documentation.
Exchange (10) Servers, IIS (7) Servers, MS-SQL 6.5 and 7 (5) servers, Metaframe/NFuse (4) servers, RAS, VPN, 45 NT servers for general ops of all this stuff, a couple of Debian boxes for internal DNS, FreeBSD running MRTG, Nessus, etc, perform 2nd level support for 8 clueless admins and 6 semi-knowledgable ones. Additionally, let's not forget the "uhh, how do I do a word merge", boss ranting about multicasting (for which I am going to modify configs on 12 cisco Routers and godonlyknows how many switches), write policy and operational documentation for all of this. Manage the "network consultants" than run DNS, e-Trust and FW-1, provide support and knowledgable comment towards a $2mil software app development process in terms of "net and O/S", deploy 2000 server *sigh* next month and ensure that everyone makes a backup occasionally. (play nice with audit, 20 mangers and two other organizations [1 that owns us, 1 that we own]).
If *ANY* of you suckers handle all that daily, and still have time to mess with patches on a regular basis, I'd love to see you in action. This seems to be quite a common scenario for a lot of mid/small size companies, in my experience.
I'd love to live in your dream world. People wonder why I'm an alcoholic.
I did realize about three months before codered that we were a screaming hole for IIS exploits. Do I have time to cull through 30+ patches and tinker with which are appropriate to apply? Nope. Result: Nimda runs rampant still this week because I've been stuck in innane meetings all day.
Now: Suppose your boss is used to having a mini-vax, and asked for CPU usage reports by dep't and individual last week. Do you see the uphill battle? We're young. Management in a small/midsize company isn't likely to even understand what they have running, less what should be paid attention to technically. Politics, Politics, Politics all day long. Yay! Well, I guess of the rest of the world got messed, it's okay that we did too.
Have fun admin'n your two Apache boxes. Good Night.
No troll indended, it's just a rant.
S.
