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Comment DDOS trace won't work. (Score 5) 76

A DDOS attack involves two layers of victims. The obvious victim is the recipient of the attack. But before the attack can be launched several (hundred) intermediate systems must be penetrated and exploited. It is this set of victim machines which launches the final attack.

The procedure proposed by Stephen is quite clever and could be used to trace the attack back to the first layer of victims. But that is where it would end. The procedure requires hundreds of packets to make its trace. But the attacking machine is only listening for a single packet - whose IP can be spoofed - for the command to launch the attack. So the perpetrator remains safe behind his proxy army until he starts bragging on irc.

I personally doubt that there is any defence against a propperly executed DDOS attack. Why? Because there is no difference between a propper DDOS and "The SlashDot Effect."

Forget the ICMP packets. Want to take down a web site? Flood it with web page requests. You now have nothing to filter on and the legitimate users are crowded out.

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