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Comment Re:I hate it here (Score 1) 274

As an anti-racist with a geography degree, this is solving a problem that doesn't exist. Walk into any classroom on earth and chances are good they won't have the mercator projection on the wall, they'll have something better representative of area, often a Robinson projection.

Comment hmmm (Score 1) 92

This reminds me of a case where a British court and an American court each ordered litigants not to litigate a case in the other's court.This was in law school decades ago and I'm too lazy to look it up, but it's the same kind of issue where if you want to do business in either country you can get easily screwed.

Comment Graduated overkill (Score 5, Interesting) 43

Perhaps it's time to apply the same methods here that helped deal with spam back in the day: start threatening the ISPs that don't deal with users infected with proxies with having all netblocks belonging to them blocked unconditionally. That works by shifting the complaints from people the ISP doesn't get paid by (the services being scraped) to people it does (it's users who can't access services). We even have the tech needed already: DNS-based RBLs. Condemn providers who host scrapers who don't provide useful user-agent strings or don't comply with robots.txt to the same fate.

We don't need regulations to do this. The services belong to the people who run them, and they've got pretty much free rein to take actions to protect themselves. Is it severe? Yes. Is it disproportionate? Also yes. But then, to avoid it they just have to do one easy thing: not be assholes. If they can't manage that, are we obligated to shoulder the costs of letting them freely be assholes? IMO, no.

Comment Re:Magic 8 Ball, am I stupid? (Score 3, Insightful) 23

They don't. They think of them as something that happens on their computer, with only them involved. They know, in the abstract, that there's a server somewhere, but the implications of that don't really sink in. The same problems applied to e-mail since forever, but everyone dismissed it as something that didn't matter since they didn't use email. Now, though, we're seeing the result of the third-party doctrine starting to hit home in ways the average person does need to care about thanks to the ubiquity of the cloud. Chatbot logs, search histories, email records, Flock cameras, Ring doorbell cameras, ALPRs, documents stored in cloud services, social media histories, messaging service histories... everything involving records stored long-term in the hands of third parties is starting to affect ordinary people in ways they can't ignore. I suspect at some point the law is going to have to change.

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