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Comment Re:Computer Science != Science (Score 1) 469

You are correct in thinking that "computer engineering" and "software engineering" are not scientific disciplines, because they aren't. They are also not computer science. A software engineer is to a computer scientist what a mechanical engineer is to a physicist.
Software engineering is not generally offered by engineering departments, but computer engineering is generally an EE degree focusing in digital systems, VLSI, etc. with some additional CS classes. My point is, though, that you know not of what you speak and that you do a tremendous disservice not only to mechanical engineers, but to all engineering disciplines when you suggest that mechanical engineering exists in some subordinate role to physics and that mechanical engineering is not a scientific discipline. The vast majority of the research and theoretical developments in continuum mechanics have been contributed by mechanical and civil engineers. One example of this would be fluid mechanics, and research in CFD and turbulence in particular, which is considered to be one of the ten intractable problems in physics. An undergraduate engineering education is focued almost entirely on the study of natural sciences and mathematical modeling. If anything, engineering is more of a hard science than is computer science.

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