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  • "We need to remove the internal combustion engine by the end of your term."

  • "Listen to, and implement all of Rustin's suggestions," Then I'd pass the phone or do that 3-way call thing. Either way, I admit that I'm not well versed in politic. And I trust that more good will come from that one liner than any other well intentioned directive that I come up with.

    Is this a cop out reply to the poll? No. Given the opportunity, this is precisely what I would do.
  • "The man in the tie has a gun and has you in his crosshairs."

    Should keep him busy for a while. Wait, change 'in the tie' to 'wearing pants'.
  • "You illegally stole the election in 2000; if you don't declare your sham and resign immediately, your life and the lives of those you love will in grave danger."
  • I admit it. I actually couldn't get down to one choice myself. I'm delighted to see that others weren't so unfocused.
    So we've got Planesdragon roaring in first and getting right to the point. We've got deep problems. Fix them. Excellent.
    Bellus Quies leaves me here blushing. And while that clashes with my shirt (blue) how can I be anything but grateful. Thank you.
    I admit it, Mr. Howell went the way that feels most satisfying. My personal variation on that was "kill Cheney or nuclear-powered ants will kill
  • "It's pronounced 'noo-clee-er'. 'Noooo-cleeee-eeer'."

    =)

    Sorry, I'm all politick-ed out.
    • I was hoping that somebody would catch that. Thanks.

      Of course even if that would change, he would *still* look like a bewildered chimp.
      Yes, folks, that is the President of the United States. First we elected the costar of Bedtime For Bonzo, now we've got Bonzo.

      Rustin

  • space colonization and SPS using asteroid mining are the USA's best bet for its long-term survival and world domination.

    • This is an example of the kind of thing Rustin wants to do, all though maybe without the global domination part. The colonization of space and using asteriods parts are a long and involved discussion with him. Ask him about it if you have the time. Then, he is a pragmatist, he might go for this one.
      • Yep [slashdot.org], you could say that [slashdot.org]. I actually came across my old L5 membership card a while back. Ah, happy times, those.
        And, please, I'm energetically in favor [slashdot.org] of some forms of American dominion. Well, some. Well, OK, American-derived.

        I've gotta say, this is gonna get scary having somebody who knows my backstory for all my rants. Well, so much for throwing JEs out into the world all by themselves.

        Rustin
        • Hee, hee. That's right, I know most of your rants. I found myself looking at your Rules of Order and remember you trotting them out in a few of our converstions.

          I'm thinking of a new drinking game "That's sounds like something the Nazis would said."

          It started when Rick showed me a cute, tounge in cheek list of ways to win an argument. One of them was "That sounds like something Hitler would have said."

          How to play: Gather around the TV at news time, with some friends and lots of alcohol and everytime some
        • Speaking of Western cultural dominion, I find it bitterly predictable that the only thing reliably in English on every page of Al Jazeera is "Jobs/Marketplace"
          They've got something like ten fucking times our wealth per capita and explicitly Muslim and/or Pan-Arab rulers in most of their countries by now and they all speak the same language (Iran notwithstanding) but when it comes to business (something that they have been doing for over three thousand years) they use English.
          Because, let's face it, we're b
      • This is an example of the kind of thing Rustin wants to do

        I know, it's actually one of the things every knowledgeable, sane person should want. It's just that I think this should be at the top 5 of the priority queue.

        all though maybe without the global domination part.

        Then perhaps I was not clear enough; It's not so much about wether I (or Rustin, or you) want American global domination, but about what I would want the American leadership to believe. As it happens, I also believe this to be true.
        • You are correct sir. I just got caught up on the fact that this was an on going discussion when I was living out there (APR00-MAY01).

          That and narcing out Rustin as a true pragmatist. I have no doubt that he would and probably sell the idea, I just wish there was a way we could do it peacably.


          • I have no doubt that he would and probably sell the idea, I just wish there was a way we could do it peacably.

            Of course there is, it exists for at least thousands of years, and is therefore so obvious most people (wrongfully) neglect it; It's called education. It only takes a long time. On the order of generations.

            But as the ancient jewish saying goes; "The words of the wiseman are calmly said". No need, IMHO, to do it any other way than peaceably.
            • Once again, you write truth, but we still have to change how our leaders (the Prez and Congress) act and get them to see the truth in this as well.

              Unfortunately, from what I see of our leaders so far the concept of peaceful actions seems to have slipped their minds. This doesn't bode well for education.

              Remember, education tends to breeed free (and hopefully) thought and Bush's people have already proven that they don't want free and open minds. They want Dupes.
  • aside from that-
    if i had to make a statement, I'd say "You suck."

    I'm not trivializing this thought exercize, I'm trivializing the idea that one man is enough of a power center to affect(effect?) that much change.

  • ...I'd say "You must do everything that Twirlip says or your body will incurably start decaying beginning at your toes and spreading upward very quickly."

    Actually, I'd likely say "You will be facing impending doom if you don't start praying for guidance several hours a day for the rest of your life." I figure God would not even screw us like that by not answering if our leader made a habit of earnestly praying for direction.
    • Certainly not the choices that I would have made, but, then that is the point of this, isn't it?

      I am curious, though. Are there any policy changes that you would consider likely should Bush hear and believe either of those sentences?

      Rustin
      • You know, I don't know what God has to say about this war. I DO know that a lot of people are probably pretty surprised right now because Iraq shot a few scuds at our troops last night (you know, of the variety they said they didn't have...) and I personally am probably a little befuddled on the whole "What does God think about war" thing because I got a call from my best friend last night saying that her step-brother, childhood friend to her, her husband and I is decidedly on the front lines, if not part
        • Thank you for a detailed, reasoned, and reasonable response.

          You guys really are not gonna let me get away without diving into a couple of Bibles, are you? Doggonne it. ;-> Well, not today, but it's now on my agenda.

          Obviously I disagree with some of what you've said. I certainly agree that if one starts from a Christian perspective, then there are ample grounds for a violent, aggressive response in Iraq. A few years back I sat through *way* too many hours of review of the years in the desert to think
          • It has taken me some time to formulate a reply, partially because I didn't know how to respond to a few of the things that you thought I said.

            I didn't say that there were a lot of people overseas slinging Kill The Americans signs, mostly because while I think it is true that a large number of people dislike and even hate the United States, I don't think that for many that extends to the notion of disliking so much as to kill it's citizens. And as far as I can tell, part of that generalized trend has to do
            • Hmm. Seems like we're wading deeper and deeper into ambiguous terrritory here. We're now talking about the range between "most of the world hates us" and "I don't think that for many that extends to the notion of disliking so much as to kill it's citizens." Clearly "hate" means something different to you then it does to me.

              Part of this is also about where one draws the line between the nation and the individuals who make it up. I suspect that we could spend many hundreds of pages on exactly where that lin
    • Since Dubya has emphatically presented himself as a religious evangelical Christian, born again in Christ, a case could be made that he is already fundamentally (heh) working from a Chrsitian framework.
      How would you expect the results to differ if your second directive were to be reworded to replace "praying for guidance" with "meditating deeply"?
      I know where Thomas Merton, or for that matter, the people who rasied my namesake (religious Quakers) would head on this one but . . .

      Rustin
  • "You must renounce your power and your worldly goods to live monastically in the Poverty of Christ. In several years you must develop your own Rule based on the principles of poverty, humility, and good works."

    I am not a follower of St. Charles of Trévis, but I play one on TV.
  • "John Ashcroft is planning to blackmail you" or anything else that would cause him to appoint an AG who truely believes in upholding and defending the Constitution.

    Another one would be "Its the economy, stupid".

    As is usual with Republican administrations I'm finding I like the end results of the Foriegn Policy but think the Domestic policy sucks.

    "The US must set up a lunar colony and land on Mars before anyone else does". A new space race wouldn't hurt.
    • Be sure and remind him that the insidious Red Chinese are heading for the Moon and thus will have High Fontier. Moon is a Harsh Mistress, anyone?

      I don't know all the reasons they're going, but it does kind of worry me sometimes.
      • Thank you yet again. I really don't think the Shrub team quite grasps the concept of a gravity well, let alone things like mass drivers or nanotech.
        Then again, they're proving to be such an amoral and short-sighted bunch of bastards that they may simply not care.
        After all, even if China were to flat out conquer the U.S., they would have enough money to bribe themselves out of facing the consequences.
        Yup, I am confronted with new reasons to hate 'em every week.

        On the bright side, the X-Prize teams may yet
        • Actaully, I want United States Senator Russ Fiengold as my President in 2004, but hey, that's just because he keeps saying no when the Bush crowd trys something sleazy.

          And he's from WI.

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