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Comment Re:Or they flew over a CAFO (Score 1) 577

Also, as a side note, you don't see something inherently unnatural about a diet that requires you to take nutritional supplements just to be in something resembling normal health?

My family has been vegetarians since hundreds of years(I know that because my great-grandparents are ), perhaps a couple of thousands of years, given the culture I come from. I can comfortably say that having to eat meat for 'health' reasons is bs. Of course, vegetarians/vegans have to be much more mindful about their diet.

Comment Re:Or they flew over a CAFO (Score 1) 577

what the hell are we going to do with natural predators beside man? I mean, it's obviously not right for them to murder other animals either, right?

So, we are going to need a lot of police. Also, how the fuck do you read his rights to a fucking lion with an antelope between his teeth?

Why should what goes on in the wild be a factor in our decision? Humans are different from other animals because we are intelligent and we are civilized. That's what makes us human. That's why we discuss ethics.

Comment Re:Or they flew over a CAFO (Score 2, Insightful) 577

If everyone stopped eating meat today, they would have to immediately slaughter billions of cows, chickens, pigs, sheep etc. as the market as every day keeping them alive would be just sinking money for nothing. Nice short-term outcome, is that what you want?

No. But, if everyone stops eating meat(Not necessarily immediately, may be by gradually reducing the consumption), very soon, there would be no more factory farming.

Then rather than saving these animals, the majority would cease to exist, as one of the main reasons we keep them is for their meat.

How are we dealing with the endangered species ? By starting to eat them ? No, right ? We will deal with the currently domesticated species, the same way.

It would also cause the price of products like dairy to skyrocket, it may even become totally uneconomical,

Veganism is an option. Even otherwise, the price of dairy products needn't necessarily skyrocket. First of all, if we decide that dependence on/exploitation of animals is NOT an option, then, we CAN find ways.

The trade is really that they get to exist at all, and we get to eat them.

A few species going extinct is much better than letting them stay around and suffer for generations to come.


Pumpkin Pie increases Male Sex Drive 173

Dr. Alan Hirsch, Director of Chicago's Smell and Taste Treatment and Research Center, says the key to a man's heart, and other parts, is pumpkin pie. Out of the 40 odors tested in Hirsch's study, a mixture of lavender and pumpkin pie got the biggest rise out of men ages 18 to 64. That particular fragrance was found to increase penile blood flow by an average of 40%. "Maybe the odors acted to reduce anxiety. By reducing anxiety, it acted to remove inhibitions," said Hirsch.

Comment Re:Fermi's paradox. (Score 1) 380

Any species that fights its way to intelligence and technological dominance of its planet will be about as aggressive as we are.A species that is not good at stepping over what's in its way to get the resources necessary for survival is a species that doesn't survive.

A statement that is too human centric, I would say. We don't surely know if any life exists at all out there, and you are already making statements about some highly intelligent species' traits, their ethics, their energy sources etc !


40 Million Year Old Primate Fossils Found In Asia 91

sosaited writes "It has been widely believed that our ancestors originated out of Africa, but a paper published in Nature by Carnegie Museum of Natural History scientists puts this in doubt. The paper is based on the fossils of four primate species found in Asia which are 40 million years old, during which period Africa was thought to not have these species. The diversity and timing of the new anthropoids raises two scenarios. Anthropoids might simply have emerged in Africa much earlier than thought, and gone undiscovered by modern paleontologists. Or they could have crossed over from Asia, where evidence suggests that anthropoids lived 55 million years ago, flourishing and diversifying in the wide-open ecological niches of an anthropoid-free Africa."

Comment Re:lokisday (Score 2, Informative) 510

What did the Romans ever do for us; they shouldn't get any days at all.

The Aqueduct?

And the Sanitation?

And the Roads?

Irrigation, Medicine, Education?

And the Wine?!

Public Baths!

Ok, but apart from sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us? You're right!

You are attributing too much to the Romans. The way you mention these things, it sounds like they are the pioneers in all these areas.

1. Although particularly associated with the Romans, aqueducts were devised much earlier in Greece and the Near East and Indian subcontinent, where peoples such as the Egyptians and Harappans built sophisticated irrigation systems.

2. The earliest evidence of urban sanitation was seen in Harappa, Mohenjo-daro and the recently discovered Rakhigarhi of Indus Valley civilization.[]

3. Stone-paved streets are found in the city of Ur in the Middle East dating back to 4000 BC.

4. Early records on medicine have been discovered from ancient Egyptian medicine, Babylonian medicine, Ayurvedic medicine (in the Indian subcontinent), classical Chinese medicine (predecessor to the modern traditional Chinese Medicine), and ancient Greek medicine and Roman medicine.[]

5. Formal education was existent in almost every civilization.

6. The earliest public baths are found in the ruins in of the Indus Valley Civilization.[]

Comment Re:I don't really think that cows are noble creatu (Score 4, Insightful) 763

I am a vegetarian and I had met many people like you who would take wrong even if I say that I am a vegetarian(I don't flaunt it, but sometimes at the lunch/dinner table, you have to mention it). As a matter of fact, I feel that, it is people like you who have a sense self righteousness. These people would inevitably ask me why I am a vegetarian. If I say I don't like meat or because of religious reasons, it is ok. But, if I just say it is because of ethical reasons (which is MY reason) , they feel I am being 'self righteousness'. As a matter of fact, I don't even care what others eat. But, when it comes to me, I am very particular about what I eat. I agree that there are vegetarians who are evangelical, but it is utterly stupid to generalize.

Comment Re:It's a lose lose (Score 1, Insightful) 352

How exactly is this comment informative? Having agreed that caste system is still a problem mostly in rural parts of India, I must say you have very little genuine information. Caste system is a social problem, not state sponsored. The fact is that, India has proven itself to be a responsible democracy. You hear incidents related to oppression of lower caste people because press in India could freely report them. How often do you hear specific details of human rights violations in China? What proof do you have to say that India is systematically denying legal representation and denying justice justice to lower caste people? India is even implementing reservations in all higher educational institutions and in public sector jobs since it's Independence, for people who were traditionally denied justice. And, inhumane working conditions have nothing to do with caste. Comments such as above prove that westerners should be a bit more informed about the east.

Submission + - India suspends it's first GM food crop (

pcermomb writes: The BBC reports that India has suspended the growing of genetically modified Aubergine. Apparently, there were safety concerns regarding the it's consumption in the public and hence the government had to step back after it approved the growing of the GM vegetable in 2009. The GM vegetable has undergone field trials, but the public sentiment is negative.

Pluto — a Complex and Changing World 191

astroengine writes "After 4 years of processing the highest resolution photographs the Hubble Space Telescope could muster, we now have the highest resolution view of Pluto's surface ever produced. Most excitingly, these new observations show an active world with seasonal changes altering the dwarf planet's surface. It turns out that this far-flung world has more in common with Earth than we would have ever imagined."

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