Agreed, the 4000 line have been very good to me toner wise. However, i think most people here are forgetting the new techniques they are using on the color lasers to get you to purchase more toner: 1. Expiring toner carts regardless of toner remaing 2. using the color carts in combination with the black to make black; Even when you have a full black cart, most color lasers STill will use the color carts mixed with black even though they dont need to. Some manufacturers allow you to control the ratio, but guess where it defaults at.

grow up already. But to bring you up to speed, wil wheaton != wesley crusher. sheesh.