Re:More than scientific learning (Score 1)

will the doomsayers ever learn for the next time?

Well, they still haven't made the black hole yet. Just wait. When you get sucked in don't come crying to me. I'll be many, many light years away.

A Black hole in normal terms occurs when a Star has no more fuel to burn. By definition of all that "is" from an atomic perspective nothing can have more MASS than it begins with, and nothing can in essence have less than the MASS it starts with, therefore everything must either Expel extra MASS or Retrieve. Star's do this by means of Gravity.

If you specifically freeze a 1 inch cube of water in a larger container and remove that ice to some other place it will still contain the same amount of water that was frozen.

Now, with respect to the container that contained the water in the first place if you compared this to a sun and the ice cube the energy or "stuff" that it has emitted. Let's say that our container which was originally full but now no longer has this 1 inch cube of ice as per our theory must receive the ice back, it would do this with Gravity, but once it get's it back it would not pull any more matter in.

This is exactly how Black holes work, the star will have spent it's hundreds of Billions of years burning away, expelling energy and "Star Stuff" around the known universe. When it has all burnt up it will collapse in itself and form a black hole which will basically try to get everything back.

What people don't realize here is that the Gravitational pull that the Black Hole has is no more than it had when it was a Star. Therefore if a planet orbits a star at a distance far enough not to be consumed when it gets to it's Largest size during it's journey, then when that Star turns into a Black hole it will stay exactly where it is.

What does this mean for the LHC? Let's say each of the protons which are being collided together have a mass of 1 unit, and therefore a Gravitational pull of 1 unit. As these protons exist prior to being fired through the accelerator(s) they are not forming black holes are they? NO. Once they are fired at Next to the Speed of Light, they will collide, and if enough energy is used in this process the Proton's may split, releasing Quarks, the quarks may then bind with other quarks and form heavier particles, but overall you will not have any more mass or therefore gravitational pull in the area of collision than you had before the collision occurred.

Back on the normal Black hole for a sec, What about when the Black hole gets all it's matter back?

Some theorize the black hole would start over again as a star due to extreme density and energy created by the Gravity pulling so much in, others theorize similar to this but with an implosion that simply causes everything to just Expel resulting in a collapse of the gravitational field and thus releasing anything held in that gravitational pull to simply drift off into space - so look out in future for any low-flying planets.

Either way, this is something no-one has seen in our lifetime or at least not properly identified as happening (with respect to black holes at least) and more than likely will never happen. Due to the ferocity with which stars expel their energy and matter and the infinite (and growing) space that space itself is comprised of it will take a Black hole an almost infinite amount of time to retrieve all of it's "stuff" back. There is simply not enough Energy and Matter reaching black holes from other Stars. Oddly enough stars themselves receive more energy and matter from other stars when they are stars than when they become black holes. Which means if you transferred this to our LHC, in theory we should all be fearing them not turning it on, because those protons that are in Oprah Winfrey's Backside have more chance of sucking us all in than the Black holes they may produce as a result of a collision - and that's a Fact!