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Comment Re:So what? (Score 1) 528

yes.

As a very early adopter of PWM (cos I fell in love with tabbing at the window level), I can tell you that PWM was the first with tabs. (I have april2001 screenshots of PWM!)

PWM was abandoned as a development dead end (in favour of ION by the same author) before fluxbox forked off blackbox and added tabs. It was too blackbox like for my style, so I stayed with PWM.

PekWM I eventually switched to for improved tabbed goodness, and these days run GNOME. But I do miss windowmanager level tabs.

huzzah for development. :)

Comment Re:from rfc2100 (Score 1) 1397

they're still around, but as the net moves away from the developer/geek crowd and towards more mainstream market penetration (the tipover point on that could be said to be any time between about 1997 and 2003 I think), then the developer-focused RFCs are more rarely seen or cared about. The leading edge of popular focus internet growth is web2.0, facebook, "the cloud", etc. These are not low-level standards which grow from RFCs.

But do they still exist? Sure, they were published at a rate of one every 3 days in January 2009... (based on an eyeball count of 10 at the end of http://www.ietf.org/iesg/1rfc_index.txt)

Anyone got a graph of RFCs per month?
How about RFCs that are adopted into STD, shown over time? Anyone want to do some datamining?

Comment from rfc2100 (Score 4, Interesting) 1397

(ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2100.txt)

The Naming of Hosts is a difficult matter,
                It isn't just one of your holiday games;
        You may think at first I'm as mad as a hatter
                When I tell you, a host must have THREE DIFFERENT NAMES.

        First of all, there's the name that the users use daily,
                Such as venus, athena, and cisco, and ames,
        Such as titan or sirius, hobbes or europa--
                All of them sensible everyday names.

        There are fancier names if you think they sound sweeter,
                Some for the web pages, some for the flames:
        Such as mercury, phoenix, orion, and charon--
                But all of them sensible everyday names.

        But I tell you, a host needs a name that's particular,
                A name that's peculiar, and more dignified,
        Else how can it keep its home page perpendicular,
                And spread out its data, send pages world wide?

        Of names of this kind, I can give you a quorum,
                Like lothlorien, pothole, or kobyashi-maru,
        Such as pearly-gates.vatican, or else diplomatic-
                Names that never belong to more than one host.

        But above and beyond there's still one name left over,
                And that is the name that you never will guess;
        The name that no human research can discover--
                But THE NAMESERVER KNOWS, and will us'ually confess.

        When you notice a client in rapt meditation,
                The reason, I tell you, is always the same:
        The code is engaged in a deep consultation
                On the address, the address, the address of its name:

                                It's ineffable,
                                effable,
                                Effanineffable,
                                Deep and inscrutable,
                                singular
                                Name.

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