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Comment Re:Incitement in Hebrew (Score 1) 232

You are using the logic of a criminal lawyer who defends clients who are guilty, and uses every argument, no matter how dubious or irrelevant, to try to get a murderer off.

The parent asked, "can you show me some Jewish incitement?"

I showed him.

That's the end of the discussion as far as I'm concerned.

Comment Re:Incitement in Hebrew (Score 1) 232

So it's ok to try to kill someone if you miss?

The Israeli excuse when they kill innocent children is that they did it "accidentally."

They say, that's the difference between the Palestinians and us. They kill children deliberately, and they feel good about it afterwards. We kill children accidentally, and we feel bad about it afterwards.

But I've never heard an Israeli government spokesman apologize for killing innocent Palestinian children. For example, Izzeldin Abuelaish's daughters https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Comment Re:Incitement in Hebrew (Score 1) 232

I hate replying to an AC, but can you show me some Jewish incitement?

http://www.alternet.org/story/...

As soon as it was published late last year,Torat Ha'Melech sparked a national uproar. The controversy began when an Israeli tabloid panned the book's contents as "230 pages on the laws concerning the killing of non-Jews, a kind of guidebook for anyone who ponders the question of if and when it is permissible to take the life of a non-Jew." According to the book's author, Rabbi Yitzhak Shapira, "Non-Jews are "uncompassionate by nature" and should be killed in order to "curb their evil inclinations." "If we kill a gentile who has has violated one of the seven commandments⦠there is nothing wrong with the murder," Shapira insisted. Citing Jewish law as his source (or at least a very selective interpretation of it) he declared: "There is justification for killing babies if it is clear that they will grow up to harm us, and in such a situation they may be harmed deliberately, and not only during combat with adults."

One of Shapira's followers, an American immigrant named Jack Teitel, has confessed to murdering two innocent Palestinians and attempting to the kill the liberal Israeli historian Ze'ev Sternhell with a mail bomb. Teitel is suspected of many more murders, including an attack on a Tel Aviv gay community center.

Despite its apparent role as a terror training institute, Od Yosef Chai has raked in nearly fifty thousand dollars from the Israeli Ministry of Social Affairs since 2007, while the Ministry of Education has pumped over 250 thousand dollars into the yeshiva's coffers between 2006 and 2007.

Though he does not name "the enemy" in the pages of his book, Shapira's longstanding connection to terrorist attacks against Palestinian civilians exposes the true identity of his targets. In 2006, Shapira was briefly held by Israeli police for urging his supporters to murder all Palestinians over the age of 13. Two years later, according to the Israeli daily Haaretz, he signed a rabbinical letter in support of Israeli Jews who had brutally assaulted two Arab youths on the country's Holocaust Remembrance Day. That same year, Shapira was arrested under suspicion that he helped orchestrate a rocket attack against a Palestinian village near Nablus. Though he was released, Shapira's name arose in connection with another act of terror, when in January, the Israeli police raided his settlement seeking the vandals who set fire to a nearby mosque. After arresting ten settlers, the Shabak held five of Shapira's confederates under suspicion of arson.

  while Lior served as the IDF's top rabbi, he instructed soldiers: "There is no such thing as civilians in wartime⦠A thousand non-Jewish lives are not worth a Jew's fingernail!" Indeed, there are only a few non-Jews whose lives Lior would demand to be spared. They are captured Palestinian militants who, as he once suggested, could be used as subjects for live human medical experiments.

Otherwise, Lior appears content to watch Palestinians perish as they did at the muzzle of Dr. Baruch Goldstein's machine gun in 1994. Goldstein, who massacred 29 Palestinians and wounded 150 in a shooting spree while they prayed in Hebron's Cave of the Patriarchs mosque, was a compatriot and neighbor of Lior in the settlement of Kiryat Arba. At Goldstein's funeral, Lior celebrated the massacre as an act carried out "to sanctify the holy name of God." He then extolled Goldstein as "a righteous man." Thanks to Lior's efforts, a shrine to Goldstein was constructed in center of Kiryat Arba so that locals could celebrate the killer's deeds and pass his legacy down to future generations.

Comment Re:Universities aren't completely honest either (Score 1) 420

There were a lot of good technical schools in the 1980s and earlier.

The old RCA Institute was very good; Bell Labs used to hire technicians there. But after the phone company broke up, they couldn't be economically viable.

Devry just became a university in New York State, which isn't easy to do (just ask Donald Trump).

I think that at least some of the technical schools were good, gave a good education, their graduates could get good jobs.

However, once they were under financial pressure, they had to move into marginal classes and outright scams to make money, like medical assistant jobs that didn't lead to certification. A good concept destroyed by the market. Government guaranteed loans didn't help either.

Comment Re: What liberal arts actually means (Score 1) 420

You had it right up to the part about engineering.

Starting in the 18th century, the liberal arts expanded to include the sciences.

Take a look at the Nobel prize web site. A lot of the laureates started out in the liberal arts.

https://www.nobelprize.org/nob...

"for their discoveries concerning signal transduction in the nervous system"

Eric Kandel was born in Vienna, Austria, where he lived until his family emigrated to New York in 1939 to escape the Nazi regime. He studied history and literature at Harvard University, before becoming interested in psychoanalysis, learning and memory. At New York University medical school he turned to the biological basis of the mind

Comment Re:Universities aren't completely honest either (Score 1) 420

Archaeology maybe your dream and you may passionately love it, definitely pursue it, but have a very viable backup plan of something that will net you a job with high probability and that you can live with.

Actually Science magazine had a story on the job prospects in anthropology, and the prospects were actually quite good. OTOH last time I saw the numbers, the unemployment rate for biology majors was pretty bad, about 5%.

My belief is that you should spend your time in college learning a diversity of things, which is what the liberal arts does (the liberal arts includes a lot of science; Antioch produced one Nobel laureate).

You have a lot of good points in your post and a lot that I disagree with. Fortunately, my liberal arts education (which included a lot of hard science courses) enabled me to separate the good from the bad.

Comment Re:IP law has nothing to do with logic. (Score 1) 396

It's amazing (and hopeful) how human beings evolved to be cooperative and work together for the benefit of the group.

There's lots of research on that, in anthropology, biology, behavioral economics, etc.

I read the Wall Street Journal editorial page for 30 years. Milton Friedman was wrong. Ayn Rand was really wrong.

People aren't motivated by money, once they're financially comfortable. In published studies, they will sacrifice real money in order to satisfy their sense of justice. Look up behavioral economics.

Comment Re:Reading comprehension failure (Score 1) 396

the core problem created by our "friends" in places like the UK and Canada who do it. Those foreign governments doing it for their socialist medical services are what forced the American consume to bear all the R&D costs and drove-up OUR drug prices; they threatened to break the patents and let the American companies get ripped-off if the American companies did not sell at prices too low to cover all the costs. The result was that the companies lowered the prices over there to a level that allowed a profit on the manufacturing costs but no margin to cover the R&D costs which went entirely onto the US customers and their insurance companies.

I take it from your comment that your expertise is not in pharmaceuticals.

Did you ever hear of insulin (Canada), statins (Japan), penicillin (England), cancer chemotherapy (Italy) or monoclonal antibodies (Argentina/Switzerland)?

I am leaving the Wikipedia search as an exercise for the reader.

Comment Re:Reading comprehension failure (Score 1) 396

The US pharmaceutical industry tried some of the short-cuts you recommended and ended up with several disasters, such as the New England Compounding Center disease outbreak, which caused 64 deaths.

The Chinese pharmaceutical industry also tried it with the same results.

Pharmaceutical quality control and manufacture is a lot more complicated than making artisinal beer.

Comment Re:Logic Says It Should Be Legal (Score 2) 396

You also mentioned something about a media source claiming syringes require "extensive medical training" or something... I call BS. Again, diabetics deal with this all the time. There are some precautions, but most are similar to EpiPens, and the additional warnings can easily be explained in a few minutes. You also may want to check into the credentials of that medical professional -- I've seen some media quotes in stories in the past few days saying similar, but it turns out they work for allergy societies that get a huge amount of support from the manufacturer of EpiPens, which at a minimum presents a significant conflict of interest.

That "media source" was Consumer Reports. I have checked into their credentials. Their medical reviewers are probably more qualified in each of the specialties than some of the reviewers in the second-string peer-review journals. And they take no money from industry.

Diabetics do inject themselves with insulin, however there are differences between them and people with anaphylactic reactions so you can't equate the two. The most obvious difference is that insulin-dependent diabetics inject regularly, several times a day, so they're used to the equipment and familiar with it. People with anaphylactic reactions might a reaction once in their lives, once a year, or once every few years (according to a friend of mine who did have an anaphylactic reaction to bee antigen in a doctor's office), so they can forget how to use it.

You want to say that it makes no difference. I don't accept that. In a matter of life or death, you need better evidence than your own personal feeling. You seem to know enough about medicine to be able to look up articles on PubMed, but I'm certain that you're not a medical doctor or medical student. The standard of evidence for pharmaecuticals is a lot more rigorous than, say, the flavors and fragrances industry. I'd rather follow the advice of an MD.

It's not good enough to say that diabetic injections are sort of like epinephrine injections, so if it works for diabetes it seems like it should work for epinephrine. The only thing that will tell you what kind of problems come up when people use manual epinephrine injections is a well-designed study of people who use manual epinephrine injections, preferably with a comparison group of people who use the EpiPen. But that would be hard to do, because an anaphylactic shock is such a rare event.

And contrary to what you say, there is nothing in those studies that addresses the claim that "people won't fill them correctly or they'll lose time in doing all that for people inexperienced with them." Those were just lab studies of 2 narrow issues -- stability and sterility.

If you want to understand the design of medical studies, you could read the NEJM, BMJ, and JAMA Internal Medicine (my preferences) over the last few years. If you want to get a summary of what it's all about, you can look in http://www.healthnewsreview.or...

http://www.consumerreports.org...
Can You Get a Cheaper EpiPen?
You could save about $400 per two-pack with generic Adrenaclick and still protect against life-threatening allergy attacks
By Ginger Skinner
August 11, 2016

The DIY Syringe Method

To further cut costs, some have turned to using manual syringes and buying vials of epinephrine to fill them. The drug costs a few dollars per vial. But experts caution that switching to a do-it-yourself syringe is more complicated and can result in getting too much or little epinephrine. What’s more, you’ll need to be trained by a doctor or pharmacist on how to inject the drug quickly and accurately before attempting to try it during an emergency.

And because there are different concentrations on the market, getting the proper dose is critical, especially for children. Work with your pharmacist to get the right amount of the drug. One more hiccup: You’ll need to replace the syringe and epinephrine every few months because studies show the drug loses potency after just three months. (It’s recommended that you replace EpiPens and generic Adrenaclick pens every 12 to 18 months.)

"While switching to a needle and syringe is not ideal,” says allergist Murphy, “it may be the only choice some patients have."

Comment Re:Logic Says It Should Be Legal (Score 1) 396

I looked up your Pubmed citations in the hope that they would show that it was practical for people to use epinephrine injections rather than auto-injectors.

Unfortunately they didn't say that. Those were just lab tests of stability and sterility. In order to be convinced, I'd have to see a study of actual patients who successfully learned to do their own epinephrine injections. That would be a hard study to do, since anaphylaxis is relatively rare. Consumer Reports had an article about alternatives to the EpiPen, and their medical experts said that epinephrine would require more training than the EpiPen. You'd need a product that could be used by a bystander, such as a teacher, with minimal or no training.

If as you say people screw up the autoinjectors, it seems that they would be even more likely to screw up epinephrine. I'll believe it when I see the data.

(The other problem was that ephinephrine degrades after 3 months, while the EpiPen lasts 12 months.)

My basic reaction to your post is, you can't know that something is going to work until you've done a well-designed study in the real world.

Comment Re:IP law has nothing to do with logic. (Score 5, Insightful) 396

As an example, my wife's kidney dialysis sessions are billed out at $3,925 each, for a total of about $600,000 per year. The insurance company's "real price" is $290 per session.

Well, the original intention of Congress was to have free market competition in kidney dialysis, to bring the price down, but that didn't work. There were a lot of small providers but a couple of big companies took over the industry and turned it into a monopoly. You can't negotiate prices with a monopoly.

It seems that in the modern economy, the free market doesn't last long as many industries turn into monopolies. Amazon is a book-selling monopoly. Google is an internet advertising monopoly.

If we must have a monopoly, we might as well have the government running it.

Comment Re: IP law has nothing to do with logic. (Score 3, Informative) 396

It's not just an exclusive license. They passed laws requiring schools to buy them.

Heather Bresch, Mylan's CEO, whose father is a congressman, managed to get Congress to pass a law effectively requiring every school in the country to stock an automatic injector, of which EpiPen is the only one readily available.

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