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Comment Re: Experts should be listened to but not decide (Score 1) 734

Why is this so hard? Fauci said early on that the general public did not need to be wearing masks when there was a shortage for frint line workers. This was referring to N95s, and before two or three layer cloth designs were popular. This is also before there was widespread community spread in the country. Of course he gave different guidance later as the situation changed.

Comment Re: Yeah who cares? (Score 1) 252

They didn't list there all the CDC info which was updated and available on the CDC website throughout this time, including the methods of transmission (droplets) and importance of wearing masks. The Trump administration muzzled the CDC from public news conferences, but their info was always available.

Comment CDC guidance had airborne transmission from the st (Score 1) 252

The CDC guidelines at least as far back as in early March had stated transmission was by small dropletsin the air. Plus there were modeling studies from MIT and others reported in the news showing transmissionout to 20 feet or so, e.g. across grocery store aisles. This debate must be about droplets staying in the air for a long time, as it's not news that droplets in the air are a vector. Also infectious disease experts familiar with other outbreaks on cruise ships stated the closed ventilation systems are a contributing factor to spread on a ship.

Comment Re: Well actually.. (Score 1) 174

I know of two people in my medium size, US city that traveled separately for different employers to China in December, one in early December, that came back and were each very sick for a month with COVID symptoms. The earlier one likely infected two others that got sick in January. One of them is hospitalized with clotting problems. It doesn't seem surprising that the virus was getting around in December given the scale of the problem in Wuhan and how connected the city is for manufacturing and trade.

Comment Re: Small wonder (Score 2) 174

I have a colleague that went to China in early Dec and was sick for about a month after returning to the U.S., with covid symptoms. (A closer colleague of hers and his wife got it in Jan. He's had complications.) And I know of a similar situation with another person in the same medium size town here. So yeah, probably in the US in some travelers in Dec and Jan.

Comment It wasn't planned, so what did anyone expect? (Score 1) 149

This was not a planned shift to online learning, so schools and teachers had perhaps a week or two to do what they could. Most teachers and administrators are pretty clueless with technology for this unless already using it or trained, and in how to create and run an online course effectively. Of course it's a failure by any reasonable standards of what we'd want to have happen.

Comment Re: It is BS (Score 1) 310

Here's another story on this today with a few interviews of doctors in different locations (Idaho and Texas).
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/02...

Also, they talked to someone at the American Academy of Emergency Medicine:

"We're hearing a lot of people saying that 'I'm not getting adequate PPE at my job, so I was able to buy PPE and I'm using what I buy,'" said Dr. Lisa Moreno, the president-elect of AAEM.

But when they wear it to work, she says, doctors have told her, "'I'm being yelled at. I'm being told to take it off. I'm being told that I'm scaring patients and that I'm scaring other people.' We've had people who had their jobs threatened."

Moreno said about two dozen people have formally complained to her organization. She said they've also received hundreds of calls from health care workers who are afraid to lose their jobs if they complain, but also feel that hospitals aren't letting them do what they need to do to protect themselves against an infectious and new virus.

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