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Comment Re:Rock & A Hard Place (Score 1) 564

Where do you get all of this free money from? The idea of raising the minimum wage isn't meant to temporarily inconvenience the middle classes, but rather to benefit the poor. If implemented in a sane way, an increase in the minimum wage would follow increases in average income and cost of living to permanently narrow the absurd income gap in this country.

You can tear up all you want about your income being in nearer proximity to that of poor people, and kick and scream about devaluation, but that doesn't really carry much weight coming from someone who's been benefiting from the economic abuse of the impoverished and unskilled labourers.

Comment Re:WTF is sending data? (Score 1) 207

How could your ISP possibly be a third party network? You're a directly attached user on the ISP network, within their management and addressing domain. The network exists explicitly to move your bits, and you're paying for the service. A third party network is one moving bits between stations that aren't part of that network.

If you ran a big network that Google needed to transit through to get to stations beyond your network, then yes, there'd be a transit settlement in place. That's how the Internet works. If you ran a big network, and your direct users requested access to Google resources, then no, Google would not pay you to deliver the traffic that your users request. You're soliciting the traffic on behalf of your customers, who pay you to do so. There's no reason why Google should pay you their money, and use their resources to fulfill a request that your users are paying you to facilitate.

If you really were to argue that Google should pay, then where do you mark the line? How much traffic warrants payment? Who has to pay? How big do you have to be? The entire Internet would become analogous to people subscribing for PSTN service and then placing collect calls to everyone they want to talk to.

Comment Re:WTF is sending data? (Score 1) 207

That's a benefit of being a large content provider. You become the tier 1 networks' product. Just like you become the end user ISPs' product. Notice, however, the distinction here. Regardless of whether or not a small company has to pay for their transit, it certainly doesn't have to pay for access to Orange's end-user network. Nor should Google, or any other company whose resources are being requested by the users of Orange's network.

Comment Re:WTF is sending data? (Score 1) 207

>Which one does Google sending data to me via my ISP come under?

Where is the source of confusion? Google is a customer to its transit providers. To your ISP, they're just another station on the Internet sending bits that its clients requested.

>Seems a bit of an arbitrary distinction, unless we want to go by technicalities like "having your own IP range / AS number makes you a separate network".

There's nothing arbitrary about it. If your traffic needs to traverse a third party network, then you pay that third party network for the privilege. It's very straight-forward. There is absolutely no source for confusion in any of this.

Comment Re:WTF is sending data? (Score 1) 207

>The "users" want to access resources. Google want them to, so they can sell advertising. The benefits of the transaction aren't one-way

Nor is selling milk. The customer gets milk, the dairy gets money.

>Besides, if I used my internet connection exclusively to host a server I would still have to pay for it. The difference is that Google is big and important enough to be able to bargain for good terms.

You pay for transit as a provider. Transit is when your traffic passes a third party network. Transit is not when the traffic that the users of a network requested passes through their own network.

Comment Re:WTF is sending data? (Score 1) 207

At the request of their users. Just like every other part of the Internet works. ISPs make money because their users want to access resources, including Google's. Charging Google for the traffic generated by the requests sent by the subscribers who are also being charged is like the grocery store charging the dairy farm for the shelf space to stock their milk.

Comment Re:Clearly (Score 1) 497

XKCD is a comic that involves a lot of math and science, and complains about dishonesty in academia on a frequent basis. Yet here the author is being excessively generous to one concept that he favours, and excessively pessimistic regarding another that he's trying to dispel. That's what irks me.

But if you don't understand the concept, and would rather write a post full of meaningless insults and devoid of reason and sensibility, then there's nothing anyone can do to stop you. Knock yourself out.

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