Comment this isn't new but (Score 1) 820
from: meronkun
to: marc
wow.
maybe i wasnt clear on my point?
or maybe you just refuted it in a small sentence, which you did.
here's your sentence which refuted my point:
Either that or, someone in blizzard actually thinks that having open gays and lesbians will ruin sales - since when? Its still the biggest MMO ever, and will be for a long time.
but here's my point, also in your words:
I was applying for jobs, and a lot of people wouldn't hire me since they were looking for a woman (waitress, counterperson) even when I asked, they specified, "sorry, we're looking for a girl". So that's illegal, however, I say that, and its like, "okay, no biggie".
the restaurant or whatever, of course, wouldnt hire you because having a waitress suits their financial interests betters. you understand that, in your own way, and no one should give a fuck about what the law says is wrong or right in this country.
my point is still that blizzard, in its gm interaction, and then its official policy, is acting like the restaurant. "real world sensitive topics" i.e. open homosexuals, are not allowed on the server. you know what this is saying? it's saying: WOW is not a place to promote social discussion , progress, or conversation. WOW is actually prohibited to have social significance, as by that rule about the clearing of real world sensitive topics from open conversation. this is to respect that WOW is a money making machine.
to this, my only point, you stated the above refutation, i think you said something like "since when? WOW would still be big" for one thing, i think you underestimate the power of greed. but i dont need to prove that, just look at anything at all and take it in.
now let me make it a little more concrete, by a small example:
if parents, the same half of the country that voted for bush only for their fear of legalization of same sex marriages despite their other grievances with the bush administration, do not trust the world of warcraft for fear of the unregulated social activity and dangerous ideas, well then you lose that half the country, and all their children , as paying subscribers. right?
so my point is , blizzards policy on harrassment, as they referred to when dealing with this issue, is nothing other than saying we don't want you we're looking for a waitRESS to attract more customers. it is only in blizzards GREAT financial interest that they invoke this policy. it makes it a safe place for children to have their parents pay to subscribe. and not only that, in a democracy, the status quo is also the far greater buying power, DONT YOU KNOW.
my anger with blizzard is that they confuse good people like you by calling it an ethical standpoint, or a moral issue, and now all the people on the forums think blizzard was trying to do their moral best.
no , they weren't.
if they spelled it like it is, they would tell you exactly what i said right now. but you know what? then they'd be acting illegally, and would be sued by everyone, which is why they call it a harrassment policy and not a make money by protecting the status quo policy. so they are acting in their own financial interest by lying about acting in their own financial interest. its all understandable, its the usual crap.
i'm not ANGRY marc, in an uproar way, really. i'm just really fucking disappointed. i just really wanted to know that a new industry would be different from the same crap as the rest of the country. of course not. its just so boring when this happens. it makes me stop caring. couldnt things have been cooler?
WOW might have been a beautiful CREATION,
but as music and movies goes,
the environment gets ruined by money.
blame it on the company,
blame it on subscription models for social universes,
blame it on capitalism.
whatever
to: marc
wow.
maybe i wasnt clear on my point?
or maybe you just refuted it in a small sentence, which you did.
here's your sentence which refuted my point:
Either that or, someone in blizzard actually thinks that having open gays and lesbians will ruin sales - since when? Its still the biggest MMO ever, and will be for a long time.
but here's my point, also in your words:
I was applying for jobs, and a lot of people wouldn't hire me since they were looking for a woman (waitress, counterperson) even when I asked, they specified, "sorry, we're looking for a girl". So that's illegal, however, I say that, and its like, "okay, no biggie".
the restaurant or whatever, of course, wouldnt hire you because having a waitress suits their financial interests betters. you understand that, in your own way, and no one should give a fuck about what the law says is wrong or right in this country.
my point is still that blizzard, in its gm interaction, and then its official policy, is acting like the restaurant. "real world sensitive topics" i.e. open homosexuals, are not allowed on the server. you know what this is saying? it's saying: WOW is not a place to promote social discussion , progress, or conversation. WOW is actually prohibited to have social significance, as by that rule about the clearing of real world sensitive topics from open conversation. this is to respect that WOW is a money making machine.
to this, my only point, you stated the above refutation, i think you said something like "since when? WOW would still be big" for one thing, i think you underestimate the power of greed. but i dont need to prove that, just look at anything at all and take it in.
now let me make it a little more concrete, by a small example:
if parents, the same half of the country that voted for bush only for their fear of legalization of same sex marriages despite their other grievances with the bush administration, do not trust the world of warcraft for fear of the unregulated social activity and dangerous ideas, well then you lose that half the country, and all their children , as paying subscribers. right?
so my point is , blizzards policy on harrassment, as they referred to when dealing with this issue, is nothing other than saying we don't want you we're looking for a waitRESS to attract more customers. it is only in blizzards GREAT financial interest that they invoke this policy. it makes it a safe place for children to have their parents pay to subscribe. and not only that, in a democracy, the status quo is also the far greater buying power, DONT YOU KNOW.
my anger with blizzard is that they confuse good people like you by calling it an ethical standpoint, or a moral issue, and now all the people on the forums think blizzard was trying to do their moral best.
no , they weren't.
if they spelled it like it is, they would tell you exactly what i said right now. but you know what? then they'd be acting illegally, and would be sued by everyone, which is why they call it a harrassment policy and not a make money by protecting the status quo policy. so they are acting in their own financial interest by lying about acting in their own financial interest. its all understandable, its the usual crap.
i'm not ANGRY marc, in an uproar way, really. i'm just really fucking disappointed. i just really wanted to know that a new industry would be different from the same crap as the rest of the country. of course not. its just so boring when this happens. it makes me stop caring. couldnt things have been cooler?
WOW might have been a beautiful CREATION,
but as music and movies goes,
the environment gets ruined by money.
blame it on the company,
blame it on subscription models for social universes,
blame it on capitalism.
whatever
