Comment Re:How to get management to listen (Score 2, Insightful) 633
Mod parent up, tired of hearing unsubstantiated claims against unions from people with no experience with them. It reminds of the tools drooling over Ron Paul who were suddenly economic experts because they read some youtube comments.
How does a statement like "Unions just give you someone else who is 'in charge' of you." get you modded informative? You're more than welcome to actually participate in the union, and steer the political direction of it. If by politics you don't agree with, you mean working to further union power and workers rights, then I suppose joining wouldn't make sense for you...That'd be like signing up for someone to punch you in the face.
As far as "Unions are great in industries where workers have no way to answer the power of the boss.", I guess I'm not sure what you'd have these people do. Sure they can quit, and they may even find jobs. All that means is that someone else will take their place; you could forward your resume if it sounds like the kind of thing you'd be into. You can always just go get that other job if you don't like it, right? Also, you said "industries" - which is exactly what two parents up was talking about ("Oh, but our job is different."). Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. Stand up for yourself.
I dont think anyone would say there are no corrupt unions, or that they cant be misused or badly managed. In those cases, it only adds another layer of bullshit on top of a situation like that at R*...but that doesn't mean _every_ union will work that way, and again, you're more than welcome to participate and make your union what you need it to be.
How does a statement like "Unions just give you someone else who is 'in charge' of you." get you modded informative? You're more than welcome to actually participate in the union, and steer the political direction of it. If by politics you don't agree with, you mean working to further union power and workers rights, then I suppose joining wouldn't make sense for you...That'd be like signing up for someone to punch you in the face.
As far as "Unions are great in industries where workers have no way to answer the power of the boss.", I guess I'm not sure what you'd have these people do. Sure they can quit, and they may even find jobs. All that means is that someone else will take their place; you could forward your resume if it sounds like the kind of thing you'd be into. You can always just go get that other job if you don't like it, right? Also, you said "industries" - which is exactly what two parents up was talking about ("Oh, but our job is different."). Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. Stand up for yourself.
I dont think anyone would say there are no corrupt unions, or that they cant be misused or badly managed. In those cases, it only adds another layer of bullshit on top of a situation like that at R*...but that doesn't mean _every_ union will work that way, and again, you're more than welcome to participate and make your union what you need it to be.
