If you learn in advance (even by work experience) and can focus and go through courses faster, WGU is probably worth looking into, since you can take as many courses as you can get through in a semester, and graduate in as few semesters as you want. https://www.wgu.edu/

And a far cheaper option for anyone in the world is BYU Pathway Worldwide. It is religious but does not require membership (some close affiliation, last I knew). And tuition is scaled per the country one is from, but even from the USA it is about half the cost of a good state school or such, I believe. There is even an option for those who need to learn English first (which I think lowers the rest of the tuition further still). https://www.byupathway.org/

Both are online and accredited.

Wish I could see how to upvote.

Maybe we can help the world in its zero-day mess, by encouraging our(selves and) employers to hire more people with knowledge of OpenBSD, and who understand of why it has gone since ~1996 with only 2 remote holes in the default installation, and how it can be used effectively to avoid zero-day bugs from happening, or to carefully know the risks and mitigate them.

Their site, https://www.openbsd.org/ , has a list of consultants: https://www.openbsd.org/suppor... and the FAQ and rest of the web site is probably the best place to start learning about the system, its philosophy, etc. And the mailing list (especially the archives) are a valuable resource for finding hosting, hardware questions, etc, it seems to me.

Thank you -- maybe I should consider that. One consideration would be that adding extensions introduces other risks (like if the product is sold to new developers or such -- I guess I would have to track that in some loose way probably).

I would like to try FF again, but:
- They removed the option to turn images on/off with a simple menu click (which Chromium doesn't have either unless you leave that tab open, which I do, but read on).
- There is no way (last I checked) to specify that certain sites can use images/JS/cookies, and other sites cannot. But I have an article saved for later reading, saying maybe Chromium is going to also remove that? Ouch.
- Same for having multiple config tabs open to quickly turn on/off images/JS/cookies/etc., conveniently/quickly.
- And I got the feeling from reading some misc@openbsd.org discussions that it was harder in FF to implement pledge/unveil calls to protect the OS account when the browser is compromised, due to code being less organized (or something; it has been a while and I could be wrong of course).
- All this seems to go along with others' comments here about removal of about:config options. I wonder why they would do keep doing that if it bleeds users.

Still, I hope for FF's, Mozilla's, and Thunderbird's (etc) success.

And there may be other reasons I listed once at another site when I was thinking in more detail. I dislike monoculture or concentration of power, but the above is important for me. And a general sense of organization and quality.

To call it the largest & most sophisticated ever seen sounds like ignoring some that others have mentioned here, and the fact that we don't know what others have not been publicized yet, including things like this (https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2021/02/chinese-supply-chain-attack-on-computer-systems.html where we don't know everything, there can be debate; but given means, motive, and opportunity, I think at *least* keeping our eyes open and attempting to adopt wise practices based on realistic trust levels and long-term track records, could be a good idea.

Plus I have to question the credibility of MS on security or anything they say, given their long track record, and when compared to others (like maybe OpenBSD), and things like this as just one very recent example: https://www.schneier.com/blog/... .

While it is important to be good stewards and not pollute etc, I don't think we are competent to un-do climate change issues as a whole, when we can't generally trust each other to keep our word, and especially when we have rejected the specific advice of the planet's Creator. I have written why I think this, and why we can be OK anyway, in some depth, at my simple site: http://lukecall.net/e-92233720... -- for what it's worth.
(thoughtful comments appreciated with any votes)

I have thought similarly, so many things become a cost/benefit tradeoff based on life view and perceived risks, and as part of that I decided to very thoughtfully learn about and use OpenBSD (with default umask set to 0077, some X usage cautions) etc.

But ultimately, I agree with someone else here that there are limits and we have to decide at what point to trust: but trust who/what? (fwiw, I write more about peace amid the commotion at http://lukecall.net/e-92233720... in a way I hope skimmable, non-JS, and maybe worthwhile?)

I don't think we are competent to solve this when we can't trust each other to keep our word, and especially when we have rejected the specific advice of the planet's Creator. I realize many will think that is silly, but I have put reasons I think this, and why I know some of these things, in some depth, at my simple site: http://lukecall.net/e-92233720... -- for what it's worth

Some criticize schools (or anything/anyone) for a variety of reasons. Some that I have read about as being accessible and budget-conscious, even (in one case) if one has to start by learning English: accredited online universities that have interestingly sustainable models and, I gather, good quality:

BYU Pathway Worldwide and associated programs. It requires a Church affiliation but not necessarily membership (I think). I think tuition is much lower especially if you do the year of English etc first (if I understood from their site). Bachelors programs (like IT, business, others) are available, programs excellent, and is also suitable for those who need to first become qualified for entering a university (edit: i.e., learning English which is used in curriculum, and other basic skills), then provides that university. More info is in Wikipedia and I have gathered a bit of info including linking to a news article that explains it well I think, here: http://lukecall.net/e-92233720... .

And: https://www.wgu.edu/ (also mentioned in wikipedia): state aid available from multiple states it seems (per wkp). Others have commented about it in this discussion, and praised it in other HN discussions, IIRC.

I'm not going to promote (or debate much today about) artificially stratifying society. In my belief system, learning and service, and seeking education to make one more able at both, are worthwhile, as steps to become more like our Father in Heaven, and to serve others of His children. Neither have to involve being better or worse than someone else.

To this end, there is a good option for affordable education, accredited, much lower tuition, and with students supported by volunteers, in BYU Pathway Worldwide and associated programs. It requires a Church affiliation but not necessarily membership (I think), nor the same behavioral standards/rules for on-campus BYU attendance. ~40 bachelors programs like business, tech, family something, and professional something are available, programs can be done entirely on-line, and is also suitable for those who need to first become qualified for entering a university, then provides that university. More info is in Wikipedia and I have gathered a bit of info including linking to a news article that explains it well I think, here: http://lukecall.net/e-92233720... .

Others also have good things to say about WGU for on-line education: praises from former students (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22719797 and Ctrl+F for "wgu"), and a relative of mine is planning to attend soon, but I can't say from personal experience. Also in wkp, here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... and here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... .

We don't have to be surprised about some of these events, since they have been predicted in the scriptures, for now, for a long time (ice melting, storms, quakes, waves of the sea heaving themselves beyond their bounds, fires/smoke, all things in commotion, and other significant catastrophic events--not just the usual levels of them). I greatly appreciate the science and am glad for progress in our efforts. But I think we are not competent to solve planet-wide issues when we have largely rejected the instructions given by the earth's Creator (like, honesty, the Golden Rule, etc, etc): we have a hard time trusting each other even when we say we agree. I'm glad we can share our own thoughts. We need His help both to address important issues globally, and in our personal lives.

And importantly, we can be OK. Related, more detailed thoughts at http://lukecall.net/e-92233720... , a simple site w/ no javascript or sales).

I have learned some things for myself, with careful testing, consistency, and, I believe, reproducibility, so now I know, and I don't have to believe someone else. Details on what & how are at the site, if you read a page then click links for more info on specifics.

In other words, if you read a page on the site, then click the links on details, it tries to explain in further detail, for each link. There is information so you can know, and there are people who can help, if you ask, seek, and knock.

It is possible for you to become sure, if you want. Explore my web site further, and send me questions (contact info in the footer).

I posted farther down a comment I hope is relevant for you. (Ctrl+F for my username, "lcall".)