Comment Re:Spamming for dumbasses (Score 1) 393
I have worked with a group that does "email marketing". Is there a difference between this and spam ? Some would say no....
If the recipients can't tell the difference between your mailings and spam, then it will be treated as spam.
They have a policy that all their clients should have fully qualified (opted in) lists, any client found to be breaking this rule becomes an ex-client.
Spammers play word games, redefining "opt-in" for their convenience. Without a clear description of how recipients become "fully qualified" and "opted in" your claims are meaningless.
If your recipients can't tell your mailings from all those others that lied to them, saying they opted in when in fact they had not, then they will treat your mailings the same as those others.
Their clients aren't selling viagra, or university degrees, they run legitimate businesses..
Absolutely irrelevant.
They actually have a remove option that actually does get you removed from the list.
The recipients can't tell an honestly run remove list from a dishonestly run remove list, and can pay a severe penalty for stepping into the trap of responding to a dishonest one. So they will treat an honest remove list just like a dishonest one.
Email marketing has the ability if properly regulated and controlled to give marketers unprecedented value and give customers unprecedented service.
Email lists existed before spam, and people subscribed voluntarily. Email lists did not enroll users against their will then allow their conscripted "members" to ask for removal. Mailing lists like this still exist, and required no regulation because they never become a problem.
Your mailings and methods must have become a problem, otherwise I don't think you'd be here arguing and justifying yourself.
It also has the potential to save thousands of tree's by avoiding the wasteful use of paper to disseminate information.
This claim is a sure sign of a spammer.
If the recipients can't tell the difference between your mailings and spam, then it will be treated as spam.
They have a policy that all their clients should have fully qualified (opted in) lists, any client found to be breaking this rule becomes an ex-client.
Spammers play word games, redefining "opt-in" for their convenience. Without a clear description of how recipients become "fully qualified" and "opted in" your claims are meaningless.
If your recipients can't tell your mailings from all those others that lied to them, saying they opted in when in fact they had not, then they will treat your mailings the same as those others.
Their clients aren't selling viagra, or university degrees, they run legitimate businesses..
Absolutely irrelevant.
They actually have a remove option that actually does get you removed from the list.
The recipients can't tell an honestly run remove list from a dishonestly run remove list, and can pay a severe penalty for stepping into the trap of responding to a dishonest one. So they will treat an honest remove list just like a dishonest one.
Email marketing has the ability if properly regulated and controlled to give marketers unprecedented value and give customers unprecedented service.
Email lists existed before spam, and people subscribed voluntarily. Email lists did not enroll users against their will then allow their conscripted "members" to ask for removal. Mailing lists like this still exist, and required no regulation because they never become a problem.
Your mailings and methods must have become a problem, otherwise I don't think you'd be here arguing and justifying yourself.
It also has the potential to save thousands of tree's by avoiding the wasteful use of paper to disseminate information.
This claim is a sure sign of a spammer.
