## Comment Re:yes (Score 1) 1010

People will only use tools they understand and find useful. For too many people, I would say this includes math beyond basic arithmetic. I use algebra commonly... scribbling out ratios to solve for X, etc. I also will use calculus to solve for min/max solutions, such as when gaming. These are just a few useful things I retained from my math education.

I think there should be a greater focus in math, and other subjects, on the order in which math concepts are taught, whether they are presented with a context and purpose and which ones are stressed over others.

I used to training for tech support for an ISP. In order for new hires to properly debug things, they needed to be taught how network stacks, most specifically IP, worked. IP relies heavily on the concept of a subnet mask, which relies heavily on understanding binary, which relies heavily on understanding numbering systems with different bases.

Over time, I found myself having to focus a lot on how decimal characters worked, pointing out the obvious relations between digits that no one really thought about to compare that to binary. Doing this seemed like taking it slow but I got a much higher success rate from the training. No wonder so many people have problems with any sort of math without a solid foundation in understanding how numbers work together to represent values.

Also, we need to get over these confusions on what math is and how it relates to science. Math is a philosophy and language (or rather, group of) that can be used to express relationships between quantities... and quantities only. However, these languages and philosophies can be applied to real world quantities to approximate and predict changes in the real world. Once you are doing this, you are in the realm of science. Please do note that math only allows for idealized approximations... even though physical scientistists have proven time and time again that these approximations can have extremely high degrees of accuracy.

Math somehow has taken on a mystical/barely understood place in our society - an arcane ritual that only the elite thinkers really need to understand. After all, I get all my science from Fox News and my pastor.