Point taken, when you made your first point. And actually, you are making a really important distinction b/c as it isn't technically war at all! Yet, we sure don't seem to be giving it near the attention it should be demanding! However, the attention that is does seemingly deserve goes a lot farther back than noticing it 3 or 5 years ago. It has a lot, if not everything, to do with our crumbling infrastructure and severely waning education system in the last 20 (?) years. The subtly of them just playing to their strengths (discipline, finances in order, etc.) and highlighting weaknesses (no really support or encouragement for bolstering our education system, financially out of order, attitudes of entitlement. It's all "gimmee, gimmee, gimmee", rather than get up off your tushie and figure out that you start somewhere by doing SOMETHING rather than sitting on the couch watching reality TV ad nauseam. Pardon the digression...err sidebar rant. As far as the TV remark, I am allowed to say such in that as I don't subscribe to cable TV - haven't for a loooooooong time - and yes I can afford it. Anyway, let's face it they didn't start all the "subtly" just last month or even last year. The solutions is anything, but a single answer/approach. Hmmm, I do wonder who, if anyone out there in our government is paying attention and taking it seriously. I'll leave it at that...geez I am starting to depress myself with where the different threads of thought from this lead... Cheers!

I guess we could entertain "what is the intent behind the "non-violent" acts"? Ohhhhhh, I know... maybe they're just routing around for info that will lead them to a few hints on what they should get the United States for it's 236th birthday! I bet they're coming to the conclusion that they'll be sending every US citizen Rosetta Stone Chinese!

Let's "suppose" this IS China's hacking handy work. This is happening in conjunction with a whole host of other subtle acts that would lead one to think China is engaging in the most contemporary war this planet's ever seen (AND IT'S WORKING!!!) Really, why invade a country on foot and turn things into a blood bath when you can slowly choke everyone out (i.e., virtual occupation!) using subtle and not so subtle tactics of financial squeezes, cheap labor practices with horrendous humanitarian violations that STILL manages to draw US dependency on Chinese mfg. industry, social engineering and high tech information stealing? Got a give 'em credit, they are outsmarting everyone, and in this race, they are just fine taking on the persona of the "turtle" - unsurprisingly Zen of them - and we all know know who wins. Tell me China isn't engaging in an undeclared war with the US first and foremost as well as every other 1st world nation - who knows - maybe it's every nation! By the way, the other morning news where China reduced US credit rating from an A+ to an A...remember, "slow and steady wins the race". Rosetta Stone Chinese anyone?

That's great... but given a quantum physics and that little bugger of a concept known as the observer effect (basically ALL experience is subjective to the observer - even scientific ones...) how do we know the results we are recording are actual vs what we believe we should be experiencing and therefore are willing to see? Sure I could be wrong in what I am saying, but let me know and I'll entertain it in my field of awareness as possibility and perhaps I'll experience it differently...or maybe not. ;) Yes, quite a bugger that little observer effect concept is!