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Comment Re:They're obsolete. (Score 1) 191

Also, a vehicle with a manual transmission can be push started.

Only if your ECU supports it. Manual transmission can be useful in snow though.

You'd think they would be useful in snow, but my 2025 BRZ's traction control will reduce power to the point that the car stalls out instead of letting the damn wheels spin in 2nd gear so I can make it up a snowy hill. (Thank God the car has track mode which disables all the nanny devices, but still, most cars don't have that mode).

Comment Re:They're obsolete. (Score 1) 191

I've always said that if I lived in a desolate area, or my job was at the opposite end of a racetrack, I'd love a manual. In my real-world daily drive, it would be useless.

I recently got a new vehicle with a manual shift mode on the automatic transmission. I tried it out thinking I might like to engine brake, or maybe I could get a more responsive shift when passing someone. Not worth it at all, having to juggle another set of responsibilities when trying to drive in a dynamic environment. People talk about being "connected to the car" but it just makes you distracted from the road.

Compared to manual mode, much more preferable to flip the car into "Sport mode", which keeps you in a lower gear and can be flipped on/off at will.

I say this with the utmost respect. If you think that having to care about what gear you are in is too much for an already 'dynamic environment', for everyone's safety, especially your own, PLEASE stop driving.

You are at the edge of being overwhelmed as it is with your automatic vehicle by your own admission, any extra things you need to focus on, like the state of your engine's load, the gear you are in, and forecasting if you might need to downshift or upshift is a distraction, and not a feeling of being in control?

Either you haven't driven a manual car, or you haven't seen a good driver operate a manual transmission. There is no distraction from the road. The driver is literally in FULL control of the car without taking their eyes off the road. An automatic cannot tell you're about to take a right turn, it won't downshift and hold the gear throughout the turn, it will absolutely decide that engine load is low and upshift for fuel efficiency destabilizing the balance of the car for example. The solution, they added traction and stability control to compensate. You are not in full control of your vehicle if you're driving an automatic. Don't take my word for it, you have all the proof in your own experiences. Does your car stop accelerating the instant you let go of the gas pedal or does it keep accelearting for a moment, even though you've let up on the accelerator completely? That doesn't happen with a manual transmission.

But genuinely, if you feel having to take in any extra information while driving is a distraction, please reconsider continuing to get behind the wheel.

Comment Re:They're obsolete. (Score 1) 191

2: Safety features and self driving. Lane assist (for the most part), traffic jam assist, and park assist are all highly requested features that come to mind that simply cannot be offered with a manual transmission. Self drive is right out. Even emergency braking would be considerably tougher with a manual.

Sorry, you're quite wrong on that one. I also am in Canada and drive a Subaru, mine is a stick shift and a sports car, and it's riddled with this safety/nanny system crap. Automatic emergency braking? Yup! It'll stall the car when it activates unless you have lighting fast reflexes and manage to depress the clutch nearly instantly. Lane Keep assist? Yup. Adaptive cruise control? Yup! And if you're not paying attention and fail to downshift as it slows down, it'll happily stall the car for you, automatically. Also, traction control? You better believe that if you're trying to start the car in 2nd gear to get out of a bit of snow, the traction control system will cut engine power so much it'll auto-stall your car for you.

So yeah, safety features are jammed/shoved into the manual cars as well. But they are idiotic and wouldn't be needed if people actually drove their car instead of sat in the car pressing the gas pedal while doom scrolling on their phones. It's almost like having to shift gears, and pay attention to the car's behaviour and revs, traction, etc. keeps most people off their phones when driving stick. (Sadly I say most as I have seen the incredible lengths to which some idiots go to in order to use their phone while driving a stick shift.)

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