Re:Ok, there are problems, but... (Score 1)

You really hit it with that one!!

The only thing I would add is how the sales staff has already sold the product and promised a ship date a month before the testers will even see the product, and, of course, they're adding features while the original product is still in test.. and can't understand why those features can't just be added since they've already pushed back their customer delivery dates for two weeks. Like they're the developer's new best friend!

The scary part is some manager still wonder why they have such a high turn around in the test, developer, and tech support departments...