Re:Humans has to win, right ? (Score 2, Interesting)

I agree with you that survival is an instinct found in humans, and most of the rest of the animal kingdom for that matter, but I don't think that it is a neccessary method in the live class definition. The only reason that it seems that all animals have this instinct is that the lifeforms that we consider animals have gone through a long period of survival of the fittest (think back to when you first loaded windows 3.1 on your 286, it was longer than that!) It the animal didn't have survival instincts, it wouldn't survive because, so to say, it wasn't interested in surviving (much like my programming career after windoze XP secures its strangle hold on the internet.) It we preempt those years of evolution and create a machine that is 'intelligent', it wouldn't necessarilly contain the will to survive. Intelligence is only what you define it in that if we create something and label it 'intelligent' it's still what we created. For example, I have a Psy-Duck pokemon stuffed animal with an ISO 9000 certification pin in it's 'hair' and sometimes I see intelligence in its stoic approach to life. Well, that's my stuff, Dave