I don't know if it works in this sort of software, but I have always been under the belief in Schools (Elementary,Middle School, and High School) to teach the idea of an application. Take spreadsheets for example. instead of an Excel class have a spreadsheet class that doesn't teach Microsoft specific functions nor Open Office functions just what a spreadsheet is and one it's good for. So much of teaching today has gone textbook, no theory involved. Why would I want to use a spreadsheet over a database. Most every class I have seen is copy from the textbook and hurry to get it done so you can play games. That is my 2 cents worth. --John