Re:real-world client side java apps (Score 2, Informative)

I agree with you on this. We have developed a client-side Java application for Internet information monitoring (http://www.botbox.com). The application would be around 10MB with the JVM/JRE included (latest version) and without, it is just above 1MB. With the JVM included with Windows there would not be as much hesitation to download.