Comment Re:Some C++ advocates (Score 1) 132
Several years ago I was hired with a group of people to train C programmers in objective-c and later java. The degree of resistance was extraordinary. Every day it seemed we fought the same battles. The same people would say the same things over and over: "but without pointers...", "java is too slow, what about high-performace graphics?", etc. It's like, but we're not DOING high performance graphics. We're doing BASIC business applications.
And as you said, I will concede to the goodness of C/C++. I used both of them long before java, and still do. There are pros and cons to both, times to use one, times to use the other. Seems to me the smart builder doesn't use just one tool, but knows which tool is the right one for the job. But they will generally not concede that there is any use to Java.
But I had the same difficulty in teaching objective-c, which DOES have pointers, and imho is a WAY nicer oo language than c++ any day. So I thinks it's not that java is java, it's that these people are resistant to any sort of change. They are either lazy or scared or both. Harsh, yes, but how else can you explain the one-sided (and borsderline irrational) arguments that you see by these people.
BTW, the aforementioned migration to java failed on all counts. A failure of java? of me? of them? hmm..
And as you said, I will concede to the goodness of C/C++. I used both of them long before java, and still do. There are pros and cons to both, times to use one, times to use the other. Seems to me the smart builder doesn't use just one tool, but knows which tool is the right one for the job. But they will generally not concede that there is any use to Java.
But I had the same difficulty in teaching objective-c, which DOES have pointers, and imho is a WAY nicer oo language than c++ any day. So I thinks it's not that java is java, it's that these people are resistant to any sort of change. They are either lazy or scared or both. Harsh, yes, but how else can you explain the one-sided (and borsderline irrational) arguments that you see by these people.
BTW, the aforementioned migration to java failed on all counts. A failure of java? of me? of them? hmm..
