Re: This KILLS java completely (Score 1)

I definately agree that server based Java is very much viable in todays market place. Having Java out of the browser is not such a good idea. I have a friend who works for the Principal Finacial Group in Des Moines, IA. He mostly does java programming for clients and administrators to gain access to information as well as keep track of account status, etc. While it is easy for clients and administrators alike to download a java plug-in when or if the upgrade to Windows XP, this will probably be cause for a lot of un-needed techinical support calls for Principal. Flash really makes web pages look nice, but browser developers such as Microsoft and Mozilla and others need to remember that Java does have some viable uses and should not be left out