Comment Re:A human in the vehicle (Score 1) 103
How would it invalidate any of my previous points about the U.S. taking on the characteristics of Hispanic civilization as it becomes majority Hispanic?
I never said it would not take on characteristics of other cultures (in fact I said that it would) - what I DID dispute was your assertion that this would result in "the death of freedom", and also your idea that these people would not simply take on the primary aspects of American culture - just as African-Americans and all other immigrants have. America changes over time. Many of those who founded this country were Puritans, for example - and this is not the prevailing view of the times. Likewise, most of those who came here in the past were leaving Monarchies - yet we are not a monarchy, and the government they established after the revolution was not a monarchy. Where you come from does not fully define who you are, or what your children will come to be.
The primary concepts of American life will prevail because those that come here to stay will become influenced by our ways, and their children will be brought up with those ways. This is how it has always been. Our culture is speading to other countries as it is, so the idea that this culture won't take hold amongst those who actually live here and are raised in it is not very believable. The same things were said about the large waves of Italian and Irish immigrants. Yet our country is still here, and freedom is not dead.
I fail to see how your term "subculture" adds anything to this discussion.
I simply stated that you can belong to a subculture within general American culture, as a response to your comment about black Americans having different cultural attributes. I took your comment to mean that you felt black Americans weren't really a part of the overall American culture, since they had their own cultural history as well. My view is that they are, and that, in fact, there are further break downs of culture in the Black community, or any other ethnic or regional group - all existing within the overall culture group of America. In fact, America is comprised of countless different communities that form a larger community, the country as a whole. As a Southerner, I feel culturally different from someone from Maine - but no less an American.
As far as scholarly discussion goes - this is not a scholarly website by _any_ means. This is slashdot, and the "Games" section at that. I feel no need to name check authors who I admire to discuss a topic. Instead, I choose to discuss based on my own views, in plain terms, based on established facts, plain statistics and my own observations.
I never said it would not take on characteristics of other cultures (in fact I said that it would) - what I DID dispute was your assertion that this would result in "the death of freedom", and also your idea that these people would not simply take on the primary aspects of American culture - just as African-Americans and all other immigrants have. America changes over time. Many of those who founded this country were Puritans, for example - and this is not the prevailing view of the times. Likewise, most of those who came here in the past were leaving Monarchies - yet we are not a monarchy, and the government they established after the revolution was not a monarchy. Where you come from does not fully define who you are, or what your children will come to be.
The primary concepts of American life will prevail because those that come here to stay will become influenced by our ways, and their children will be brought up with those ways. This is how it has always been. Our culture is speading to other countries as it is, so the idea that this culture won't take hold amongst those who actually live here and are raised in it is not very believable. The same things were said about the large waves of Italian and Irish immigrants. Yet our country is still here, and freedom is not dead.
I fail to see how your term "subculture" adds anything to this discussion.
I simply stated that you can belong to a subculture within general American culture, as a response to your comment about black Americans having different cultural attributes. I took your comment to mean that you felt black Americans weren't really a part of the overall American culture, since they had their own cultural history as well. My view is that they are, and that, in fact, there are further break downs of culture in the Black community, or any other ethnic or regional group - all existing within the overall culture group of America. In fact, America is comprised of countless different communities that form a larger community, the country as a whole. As a Southerner, I feel culturally different from someone from Maine - but no less an American.
As far as scholarly discussion goes - this is not a scholarly website by _any_ means. This is slashdot, and the "Games" section at that. I feel no need to name check authors who I admire to discuss a topic. Instead, I choose to discuss based on my own views, in plain terms, based on established facts, plain statistics and my own observations.
