Comment separating scripture issues from people doing evil (Score 1) 1072
There is a simple way to sort out where the blame goes, either to the religion or a person. A religion is judged by its scriptures and its prophets, and people by their words and deeds. Muslim people, lots of them, are rioting. These are not "protests" or "demonstrations", these are violent murderous riots with guns and flames and everything you would expect from a riot. These people, who are muslim, are evil and should be punished for their actions and neither websites (wasn't this thread about yahoo?) nor governments nor businesses should bow to the influence of evil insane people who are bent on destruction. These people are committing acts of evil over a cartoon for cryin out loud. That is stupid. They claim they've been "offended" but how offended are the families of the victims of these muslim rioters? And what compassion or love are these muslim terrorists showing towards their victims or their families? If a religion isn't useful at getting people to love one another and not murder one another, its a failure as a religion. While you can't necessarily judge a religion based upon the actions of its followers, you would have to be an idiot to not draw some empirical evidence from these violent events about the nature of the Islam religion. Extremist muslims are committing acts of evil and claiming that it is the will of God to do so.
Religious extremism in and of itself isn't necessarily a bad thing (Christ is a christian religious extremist), but apparently when the religion is Islam, it leads to rioting and people getting beheaded for no good reason. The religion of Islam itself must be solely judged by its scriptures and by its prophet. Was this prophet a good man or a bad man? Was he full of love and compassion or hate? We know for a fact that Muhammed led troops in war and had multiple wives. Seems wrong to me. The spanish inquisition and the crusades, which were perpetrated by the roman catholic church, are an example of people doing evil acts. But to judge the religion of christianity based upon their actions is a non sequitur, a religion can only be accurately be judged by its scriptures and its prophets.
In Christianity, the man Jesus Christ (Iesous Christos in greek) spoke at great length about how his true disciples should be harmless as doves, turn the other cheek, give, love, and forgive. He said that if his disciples do not forgive, neither will THEY be forgiven. Jesus is, was, and always will be the most extremist Christian, seeing as he is the Christ, the Son of the living God. We all know how he died, and he did not resist his oppressors but gave himself over to them to be crucified. Such is the example that the Scriptures of the christian religion gives to its followers. The disciples of Christ are in varying levels of maturity, some have been long time followers, some only recently have been born again. But a born again christian is commanded by his Lord to forgive and love, trusting that God in his own time will take his vengeance. Christians who are killing people and bombing doctors and abortion clinics are 1) impatient 2) unloving 3) murderous. They are not following the example set by Christ and therefore are committing acts of evil.
We need to get away from the political-religious mindthink of this situation and get back to defining what really is evil and what is not. Killing? obviously evil. no one should do it. Stealing? also. The less people that are out there doing evil deeds and otherwise being mean nasty jerks, the better. I judge the religion of Islam based on its ridiculous text in its scriptures. As for the muslims themselves, we christians we realize they are blinded by the evil one into doing evil acts. If they saw the peaceful loving example of the man Jesus Christ, our Lord, and if they believed that he was God in the flesh, then they would go a long way towards improving the situation in the middle east. As for homosexuality, that was taboo in cultures throughout the world regardless of religion. Christians simply believe that God was correct in making females and males to mate with each other, we think it was a good idea. Does it mean I'm gonna go killing fags? Hell no... But I will tell them the truth, the obvious truth, that men are supposed to have sex with women. And why should I be criticized for such an obvious statement? Am I a homophobe simply because I believe that our ancestors were right to have heterosexual sex? Our parents and grandparents and great grandparents who all had straight sex to have children and perpetuate the species believed it was the best way. Homosexuality no excuse for a disciple of Christ to kill someone. Even if we are robbed of all our possessions and beaten severely, the duty of a disciple of the risen Lord Jesus Christ is to rejoice and glorify God that he has been counted worthy to suffer for the name of his Messiah. Christians realize that there is an eternal kingdom guaranteed for them because their Lord died on the cross to pay for all sins. As such, there are no sins left for us to go killing people for, they have all been paid for by the blood of the Lamb of God.
It is simply our duty to share the good news and be harmless as doves, as our Lord commanded us. Judge not, and you shall not be judged; forgive and you shall be forgiven. That's a credo of our faith. We realize that things like south park will blaspheme God's holy innocent son, and we understand that in his own time God will take his own revenge on people if they do not repent and believe the gospel.
Two things that have always bothered me about islamic martyrs: 1) unlike Jesus, and Stephen, who were peaceful martyrs killed for their words, islamic martyrs are just suicide bombers. And everyone who commits suicide goes to hell, it is the willful abandonment of life and God respects our choices. 2) the koran says that muslims who martyr themselves will get however many virgins right? That's all well and good from a male chauvanistic point of view, yknow, yay virgins, but what about the poor muslim women martyrs? do they get however many muslim virgin men? like the 40y old muslim virgin? doesn't their god care about women at all? in christianity, men and women were created in God's image and likeness and thus it is a crime/sin to murder a person. but in islam, women are treated as subhuman and worthless, not allowed to have rights.
On the other hand, when Christ rose from the dead, women were waiting at his tomb, and they were the first ones to see him resurrected. the REAL God cares about women and proved it. some of Christ's last dying words were with respect to his mother, providing John for her to take care of her. even in his agonizing pain, Christ, the prophet and indeed God's only son, had the presence of mind to love his mom and make sure she was cared for. AND he forgave the people who were crucifying him.
Islam ain't got nothin on that. Neither does buddhism or hinduism; or athiesm which has nothing at all. Athiests think they just die and thats it, its over, and theyre happy with that. I on the other hand know for a fact that I will live forever and never die because I have faith in God's only son. And so I can afford to not be as greedy or vengeful as people who think that this life is all there is. If someone abuses me, its okay, because He who judges justly is right by my side. The Holy Spirit is always with me, He loves me.
He loves you too, so please, believe the gospel.
Religious extremism in and of itself isn't necessarily a bad thing (Christ is a christian religious extremist), but apparently when the religion is Islam, it leads to rioting and people getting beheaded for no good reason. The religion of Islam itself must be solely judged by its scriptures and by its prophet. Was this prophet a good man or a bad man? Was he full of love and compassion or hate? We know for a fact that Muhammed led troops in war and had multiple wives. Seems wrong to me. The spanish inquisition and the crusades, which were perpetrated by the roman catholic church, are an example of people doing evil acts. But to judge the religion of christianity based upon their actions is a non sequitur, a religion can only be accurately be judged by its scriptures and its prophets.
In Christianity, the man Jesus Christ (Iesous Christos in greek) spoke at great length about how his true disciples should be harmless as doves, turn the other cheek, give, love, and forgive. He said that if his disciples do not forgive, neither will THEY be forgiven. Jesus is, was, and always will be the most extremist Christian, seeing as he is the Christ, the Son of the living God. We all know how he died, and he did not resist his oppressors but gave himself over to them to be crucified. Such is the example that the Scriptures of the christian religion gives to its followers. The disciples of Christ are in varying levels of maturity, some have been long time followers, some only recently have been born again. But a born again christian is commanded by his Lord to forgive and love, trusting that God in his own time will take his vengeance. Christians who are killing people and bombing doctors and abortion clinics are 1) impatient 2) unloving 3) murderous. They are not following the example set by Christ and therefore are committing acts of evil.
We need to get away from the political-religious mindthink of this situation and get back to defining what really is evil and what is not. Killing? obviously evil. no one should do it. Stealing? also. The less people that are out there doing evil deeds and otherwise being mean nasty jerks, the better. I judge the religion of Islam based on its ridiculous text in its scriptures. As for the muslims themselves, we christians we realize they are blinded by the evil one into doing evil acts. If they saw the peaceful loving example of the man Jesus Christ, our Lord, and if they believed that he was God in the flesh, then they would go a long way towards improving the situation in the middle east. As for homosexuality, that was taboo in cultures throughout the world regardless of religion. Christians simply believe that God was correct in making females and males to mate with each other, we think it was a good idea. Does it mean I'm gonna go killing fags? Hell no... But I will tell them the truth, the obvious truth, that men are supposed to have sex with women. And why should I be criticized for such an obvious statement? Am I a homophobe simply because I believe that our ancestors were right to have heterosexual sex? Our parents and grandparents and great grandparents who all had straight sex to have children and perpetuate the species believed it was the best way. Homosexuality no excuse for a disciple of Christ to kill someone. Even if we are robbed of all our possessions and beaten severely, the duty of a disciple of the risen Lord Jesus Christ is to rejoice and glorify God that he has been counted worthy to suffer for the name of his Messiah. Christians realize that there is an eternal kingdom guaranteed for them because their Lord died on the cross to pay for all sins. As such, there are no sins left for us to go killing people for, they have all been paid for by the blood of the Lamb of God.
It is simply our duty to share the good news and be harmless as doves, as our Lord commanded us. Judge not, and you shall not be judged; forgive and you shall be forgiven. That's a credo of our faith. We realize that things like south park will blaspheme God's holy innocent son, and we understand that in his own time God will take his own revenge on people if they do not repent and believe the gospel.
Two things that have always bothered me about islamic martyrs: 1) unlike Jesus, and Stephen, who were peaceful martyrs killed for their words, islamic martyrs are just suicide bombers. And everyone who commits suicide goes to hell, it is the willful abandonment of life and God respects our choices. 2) the koran says that muslims who martyr themselves will get however many virgins right? That's all well and good from a male chauvanistic point of view, yknow, yay virgins, but what about the poor muslim women martyrs? do they get however many muslim virgin men? like the 40y old muslim virgin? doesn't their god care about women at all? in christianity, men and women were created in God's image and likeness and thus it is a crime/sin to murder a person. but in islam, women are treated as subhuman and worthless, not allowed to have rights.
On the other hand, when Christ rose from the dead, women were waiting at his tomb, and they were the first ones to see him resurrected. the REAL God cares about women and proved it. some of Christ's last dying words were with respect to his mother, providing John for her to take care of her. even in his agonizing pain, Christ, the prophet and indeed God's only son, had the presence of mind to love his mom and make sure she was cared for. AND he forgave the people who were crucifying him.
Islam ain't got nothin on that. Neither does buddhism or hinduism; or athiesm which has nothing at all. Athiests think they just die and thats it, its over, and theyre happy with that. I on the other hand know for a fact that I will live forever and never die because I have faith in God's only son. And so I can afford to not be as greedy or vengeful as people who think that this life is all there is. If someone abuses me, its okay, because He who judges justly is right by my side. The Holy Spirit is always with me, He loves me.
He loves you too, so please, believe the gospel.
