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Comment Re:Why so big? (Score 1) 84

Can you give an example of this? all through the Russo-Japanese War, WWI, WWII, the cold war and the Falklands ship sizes for classes have generally gone up during or as a result of lessons learned during the war ( e.g. batch 2 and 3 type 42s vs HMS Sheffield) and then gone down again because of cost issues during the peace, or at least perceived cost, generally steel and air is much cheaper than people and systems on modern vessels so there is an argument for building them bigger than you actually need so you have space to expand into.

What tends to happen is that having built a ship, if you take it to war people hang all kinds of new stuff on it all of which need consubambles, spares and new bodies to work the kit. You end up with a ship that's crowded and if you're not careful top heavy. The classic example being your 1930 RN destroyer which in the course of WWII was likely to get RADAR, more AA guns, SONAR, more AA guns, degaussing equipment, more AA guns, HDFD, more AA guns, hedgehog, you can never have enough AA guns, squid...generally post WWII ships got bigger.
The largest ships in most fleets today are bigger than their predecessors.

Comment Re:Should be interesting RE- Nato (Score 2) 375

I doubt that they'd have any objections as such (well I suspect Spain will be cagey) but there will have to be negotiations over the UK's opt-outs (the Euro, Schengen, etc) and the UK's rebate. I can't see the EU countries pushing the Euro issue that much but the rebate is currently an issue and I suspect the Schengen opt-out will require some quid pro quos.

Comment Re:If you have the opportunity (Score 1) 433

It depends on the leader. In N.I. the british army had a policy of leaving one IRA leader alone because his signals security was so bad. if they're have arrested or killed him they'd have lost a huge intelligence lead as whoever replaced him would probably be more competent. At one point this got to the stage that one of them was shagging his wife to keep her quiet as she was threatening to leave him and this was affecting his "work". This isn't new, the OSS produced a manual on sabotage in WWII which included advice for agents in french industries to try and get incompetent managers promoted in order to reduce efficiency.

Comment Re:Yes, but... (Score 1) 139

The 21s were never meant to be much more than a short term buy for the RN and had little space for additional equipment, that said they lasted from 1974 up to 1994 and were regarded quite favourably by the crew, though the very basic missile fit was always an issue after the 1980s

The batch 1 type 42 were very much built down to a cost and Sheffields commissioning Captain (one Sandy Woodward) had a list of complaints which were almost the main points of difference between the batch 1s and later ships.

Thankfully the lunatic idea of having them coal fired didn't get much further than a D.K.Brown sketch of a 4 funneled type 42

Comment Re:Yes, but... (Score 1) 139

The missile hit right in the ships main control room putting it out of action and the fire caused by the remaining fuel from the missile burned nicely on the aluminium ship.

And you were doing so well up to this point... Sheffield wasn't an Aluminium ship, not even aluminium superstructure http://www.hazegray.org/faq/smn6.htm#F7
As the link above states none of the RN ships sunk in the Falklands were sunk because of burning aluminium.

In Sheffields case they lost the firefighting ring main more or less immediately and they abandoned when the heat conducted by the steel hull was causing secondary fires in other parts of the ship

Comment Re:Yes, but... (Score 1) 139

At one point in 100 days Woodward describes how he has to find out if the entrance to Falkland sound has been mined or not. Not having minesweepers his only choice is to choose one of the cheap and cheerful type 21's and see if it gets blown up or not. The ships Captain, Christopher Craig, knowing exactly what was (specifically not) being asked of him pointedly asked Woodward if he wanted him "to zigzag about a bit" to make sure the channel was clear. It was and Alacrity survived. I think Woodward described this action as being very brave and worthy of the highest awards for gallantry, but strangely only if it all had gone wrong.

Comment Re:Yes, but... (Score 3, Insightful) 139

HMS Sheffield was sunk by an Exocet from a Dassault Mirage two days later, most likely as revenge

Not really, firstly it was launched from a Super Etendard not a Mirage, secondly the Sheffield attack was the second or third attempt by the Argentinian Navy to attack the carriers using exocet, the Argentinian navy went to a lot of effort to get the Etandarts exocet capable and were intending on using them against the Royal Navy carriers long before the belgrano was sunk. If the exocet attacks were reveng then as advocated by most combat instructors they were trying to get their revenge in first.

. Critics are of the opinion that if UK hadn't been the first to sink an enemy vessel then none would have been lost on either side.

Critics are like arseholes....sorry no Opinons are like arseholes every critic is one. Sorry nope I'll get it right eventually ... Opinions are like arseholes everyone has one, ignore the opinions be guided by the facts. Given that the argentinian Navy was actively seeking out the royal navy carrier battle goup with three task forces and two air attacks on the day the Belgrano was sunk it was obvious that someone was going to come off badly. Unfortunately for those onborad the belgrano she was it. Perhaps ironically as of all the Argentinian navy ships she was best suited to survive a torpedo hit, as some of her sisters did in big mistake II.

Comment Re:Yes, but... (Score 2) 139

Yeah, but the Belgrano was running because word leaked out that she was a primary target and when she was engaged she was at full speed towards home

No, she was meandering along at cruising speed to a holding area whilst the Argentinian navy decided what to do next since their ari strike on the Carrier battle group couldn't get airborne because of low winds.

Conqueror had destroy orders even though Belgrano had left the field.

Field...? what field, she was at sea and she was a combatant...to paraphrase Shankly "if she wasn't interfering with play what the fuck was she doing on the pitch"

Some say she was in Argentine waters when she was sunk, but this has not been verified either way.

She was sunk at 5524S 6132W that's more than 12 miles away from anything.

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